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Bogoff Tue 05-May-15 22:51:57

Many words that we used to innocently use in the past have changed their meaning in popular culture and are no longer PC. eg.

Gay = happy
Queer = unwell
Sad = unhappy
ginger = red hair
Minx = mischievous
etc etc

I'm sure we can all add to the list.

So, should we use words like these in their original context ?

I still say "I feel a bit queer" if I am unwell - my father always said that and I picked it up from him.

trisher Tue 05-May-15 23:15:46

There used to be a scheme of reading books in primary schools called "The Gay Way Readers". All the books were binned of course and the scheme renamed!

jinglbellsfrocks Tue 05-May-15 23:21:57

I don't think it is non-pc to use those words in their original context.

"Ginger" is still a hair colour. We can still be "sad", meaning unhappy. Odd situations can still be described as "queer". "Gay" is the only one, I think, that has been completely taken over. Shame really.

numberplease Wed 06-May-15 00:11:22

Wicked used to mean bad, now it means wonderful.

Teetime Wed 06-May-15 09:09:59

I wish everything want 'awesome' and that I wasn't called a 'guy'! sad

Lilygran Wed 06-May-15 09:51:51

There are words we used to use quite innocently which we certainly couldn't use now. There used to be a shade of brown, for example. I sometimes wonder what happened to the several women friends of the family when I was a girl who were called 'Gay'. 'Tory' originally meant a brigand or bandit. I'm definitely not in favour of changing the text of books or plays, or of bleeping words out of films but I think we have to be selective in what we say or write now.

ayse Wed 06-May-15 15:02:03

When I was a child my mother called me 'Fanny' as did my first husband - how embarrassing is that?

janerowena Wed 06-May-15 15:03:24

'Fanny Fanackerpan(?)' - I remember my mother calling me that sometimes. Why, I have no idea!

Ana Wed 06-May-15 15:05:57

There is a Bee Gees' song entitled 'Fanny be Tender with my Love'.

It's a lovely song, btw!

shysal Wed 06-May-15 16:02:59

Ex DH used to call my brother Frederick Fernackapan. I never knew where it came from or how to spell it.
When I worked in a hospital, I saw a patient name of Fanny Fanphart. As the surname came first on notes, she was Fanphart, Fanny. It was around the time of the song 'Fanlight Fanny', poor woman! grin I also remember a Rolls, Royce.

numberplease Wed 06-May-15 16:25:21

When I was little, I remember having an Auntie Fanny, ran a fish and chip shop, never did know if her name was really Fanny.

rosesarered Wed 06-May-15 16:57:45

Yes , Fanny and Dick (Enid Blyton) those names won't be making a comeback anytime soon!
I remember that Fanackerpan thing, it must have come from something, a popular song? also being called Dolly Daydream.My MIL used to say 'feeling queer' it made me laugh even back then.She also once told the doctor who did a home visit that " she had been sick in the night" to which the doctor said " most people use a bowl!" he got laughter from me but not her.

rosesarered Wed 06-May-15 16:58:32

Fanny is Frances.

AshTree Wed 06-May-15 17:22:31

" I'm definitely not in favour of changing the text of books or plays, or of bleeping words out of films, but I think we have to be selective in what we say or write now. "

Or even in what music we play on a radio programme, Lilygran, if we don't want to go through what this radio presenter did shock

Bogoff Wed 06-May-15 17:27:12

IMO that word has long been a horrid racist word. According to Wiki since the 1900's.

merlotgran Wed 06-May-15 17:33:46

My mother used to call me Fanny Fernackapan as well, janer confused

In Isle of Wight vernacular, Queer means angry.

AshTree Wed 06-May-15 17:37:39

Totally agree Bogoff, it is vile. When I was a child, though, we used to sing a song which included the word, and I had no idea what it meant. I don't think children question things. And the radio presenter certainly had no idea the word was in the song. I was rather surprised that the powers that be considered the onus was on him to check every song for offensive language - surely that should be the responsibility of the radio station itself, which could then remove any inappropriate song from the library.

Ana Wed 06-May-15 17:45:44

Yes, I agree it was ridiculous that the presenter had to fall on his sword.

I'm sure a lot of us on here used to say the word when chanting "eeny meeny miney mo" but as you say, AshTree, we had no idea what it meant or that it was offensive.

TriciaF Wed 06-May-15 17:48:56

I thought that was going too far too . After all it's just the latin word for black (less a g).
The first book I learnt to read was called Little Black Sambo - I wonder if that had the "n" word in it?

Coolgran65 Wed 06-May-15 18:29:39

jings
I only know ginger as being a hair colour or a spice... what with having been a 'ginger' myself.
What am I missing? I've no idea of it meaning anything else confused

Ana Wed 06-May-15 18:31:59

What's wrong with 'minx'? There's a thread on here using that word.

Ana Wed 06-May-15 18:32:38

A recent thread, anyway. About 2 year olds.

Envious Wed 06-May-15 18:38:45

I've gotten the impression from comedians and movies that describing a person as a "ginger" is a negative comment.I never heard it growing up.People were called red heads of anything and it was considered a pretty asset to have! smile

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 06-May-15 18:42:01

Well yes. That's what I said - ginger is still a hair colour. And ginger hair is still referred to as such. And not only in the (modern hmm) nasty way.

And it's a delicious spice, of course. smile

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 06-May-15 18:42:28

that was to Coolgran btw.