Woman

I never read the Evening Standard.

Good grief!
Enlighten me - if the words 'man' and 'woman' signify gender,
what do the words 'male' and 'female' refer to?
(Aside from that, I can understand someone who's pregnant might hesitate over having a vaccination, not just a covid one).

I think if it wasn't so ridiculous if would laughable

It’s ridiculous, but yet another example of the erasure of women. Or erasure of generally accepted terminology in favour of a tiny but vocal minority.

In case anyone is scratching their head wondering why anyone would want to use the term ‘pregnant people’ when clearly it is only people of the female sex who can get pregnant, it is to protect the sensitivities of pregnant women who identify as male.

I see no reason why midwives shouldn’t call transmen ‘people’ or ‘parents’ (on the rare occasions when midwives are likely to encounter people in this situation) but to change vocabulary for the rest of the population is a step too far.

The Covid vaccine has been tested and has been found to
be safe if you are pregnant, no medical process is 100% safe but why stack the odds against you by not taking vaccine.
Reported in the news today from Brazil, unvaccinated pregnant women who catch Covid have a very high mortality rate, babies are being delivered by C section and surviving

Just tragic that this is happening in 2021

It is a nonsense, perpetuated by a very vocal, intolerant and undeservedly influential minority.

And off we go on another trans exclusionary thread...

It’s ridiculous, but yet another example of the erasure of women. Or erasure of generally accepted terminology in favour of a tiny but vocal minority.

This x 1,000,000

Doodledog what you are saying makes more sense than anything else I’ve read on this subject !

gagajo I recall that grannygranby has a transgender child, so I doubt that was the intention. I didn’t comment on what appeared in the Evening Standard as I haven’t read it. I’d need to see what the original article said and what the reply said first. I would also be interested to know what grannygranby thought of it.

GagaJo

And off we go on another trans exclusionary thread...

Who has excluded whom, and from what?

Totally ridiculous and as others say pandering to the vocal ‘in your face’ minority. I think it started in the US?

Scottish Government have been blasted for saying pregnant people should have Covid vaccine. Because of saying people not to do with the vaccine.

Just keep fighting against this twaddle ?

GagaJo

And off we go on another trans exclusionary thread...

Inclusion of trans folks should not be at the exclusion of women

Females/Women get pregnant, carry the child and give birth, not people

Not again

GG13
Females/Women get pregnant, carry the child and give birth, not people.
Perhaps we need to use Lina Lamont’s words from Singing in the Rain, where she says, “I ain’t people! ”

Sorry if women discussing the reason for their oppression upsets you.

Mollygo

GG13
Females/Women get pregnant, carry the child and give birth, not people.
Perhaps we need to use Lina Lamont’s words from Singing in the Rain, where she says, “I ain’t people! ”

I just get extremely peeved and frustrated that women have continually had to fight for recognition, votes etc only for a minority section of the population to erase words associated with the Female Gender!!!!

But I'm a person and a woman.
I don't feel excluded (though not pregnant at my age thank goodness!).

I don't see why women would feel excluded?

Because women are allowed a word to describe the class/group to which they belong. As are gay men, etc etc.

Quite so Doodlebug a male who identifies as a woman and is pregnant is a rare beast indeed.

A vociferous minority who are very aggressive and losing sympathy for their cause.

The term is being used to include transmen not transwomen. So those who are of the female sex but identify as Male.

Well said GG13 and lovebeigecardigan1955!