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Miriam Margoyles

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Luckygirl3 Mon 13-Apr-26 21:56:52

I am just finishing watching a BBC2 programme on Miriam Margoyles.
Such a brilliant actor of course .... but the rest if it? What do people think?

Flutterby345 Tue 14-Apr-26 18:27:06

Oreo

I just find her too repellent to watch in anything.

Me too. Revolting. Have to make one exception. Blackadder.

Emeraldforest Tue 14-Apr-26 18:54:44

I'm the last person in the world to swear, but I love her uninhibitedness,she's a one off and a real character.

Dreadwitch Tue 14-Apr-26 19:00:32

I love her, she's definitely my level of crude and vulgar... I know I'd have a brilliant time with her at a party.

WithNobsOnIt Tue 14-Apr-26 20:05:35

Miriam Margoyles is a highly intelligent and talented women.

She can act and has a great voice.
She also studied and received a. degree from Newnham College. Cambridge.

She also has lots of interesting and intelligent things to say and. talk about.

All this potty mouth and most of her celebrated foul bodily functions nonsense is part of her calculated brand.

She has got her schtick down to a fine art.

Schtick is a Yiddish word used to describe to adopt something memorable you can use. So that you are easy to remember by people and not forget

It has been used extensively over the years by Artists in Show Business.

Think Sandie Shaw with her bare feet. Gilbert Sylvan dressed.as a
child.

Miriam Marbles is very shrewd.

Galaxy Tue 14-Apr-26 20:06:24

Oh yes she has made a lot of money from being boring.

Cossy Tue 14-Apr-26 20:11:24

Galaxy

Oh yes she has made a lot of money from being boring.

I don’t find her in the slightest bit boring!

mae13 Tue 14-Apr-26 20:33:24

She appears to have a minor obsession with commenting about farting and anything scatological. Why? Straightforward attention-seeking?

Mojack26 Tue 14-Apr-26 20:52:19

Sorry cannot stand her! Intelligent and witty but I find her course and crude and always looks as if she needs a good wash!

GANNET Tue 14-Apr-26 21:21:48

Yuk.

M0nica Wed 15-Apr-26 08:42:30

ClicketyClick

Regardless of her language and crudeness, I have always liked her honesty and her naughty sense of humour and that she's growing old disgracefully. Like a previous poster mentioned I do wonder if a lot of the dislike of her being uncouth is down to her being an elder. To me, she's no worse than Adele who has a foul mouth and who doesn't care about youngsters being within earshot. MM always makes me laugh which is more that can be said for the Saturday night woke rubbish

Age has got nothing to do with it. I would find her antics revolting and coarse in anyone of any age, sex or gender.

Usedtobeblonde Wed 15-Apr-26 08:47:17

How sad I feel for someone, anyone, who feels the need to be coarse and objectionable to be noticed.
She shouldn’t be at all insecure but maybe she is.

Cossy Wed 15-Apr-26 08:58:15

Usedtobeblonde

How sad I feel for someone, anyone, who feels the need to be coarse and objectionable to be noticed.
She shouldn’t be at all insecure but maybe she is.

I think she’s just being her! She’s made a good living out of her acting, TV shows and books, I don’t think she’s any more attention seeking than many “luvvies”

It’s part of the attraction of being an actor, the attention, especially in theatre work.

I attended a pre drama school course for two years, it was full of us attention seeking types, some of my contemporaries did go to RADA or Central colleges and went on to become professional actors.

Cossy Wed 15-Apr-26 09:25:45

This quote is just one of the reasons I like Miriam

I have never been so ashamed of Israel as I am at this moment. To me, it seems as if Hitler has won. He's changed us Jews from being compassionate and caring and do unto others as you would have them do unto you into this vicious genocidal nationalist nation, pursuing and killing women and children. Of course, I condemn the Hamas action, of course I do. But what we are doing, Jewish people over in Israel, is shocking, embarrassing and wicked and I cannot understand why all Jewish people, particularly members of synagogues, do not want immediately to stop what is going on. And in the name of humanity, I call upon all Jews to shout, beg, scream for a ceasefire.

She also supports many charities, is an extremely loyal partner/wife to someone since 1868, spent many years living in Australia, has an OBE for services to acting, and is extremely well educated.

I can see past and forgive her for her bluntness and swearing.

Of course, like everyone, she’s not everyone’s cuppa tea, but she is mine!

Anniebach Wed 15-Apr-26 09:33:25

As usual, blame Jews

Mollygo Wed 15-Apr-26 09:35:16

Luckygirl3

Her Dickens readings are wonderful. It would be good if she would concentrate on her very real talents.

Agreed.
I’ve admired her in several roles.
Playing a part and using words set up by somebody else gives a good impression.

Left to herself, sometimes she is definitely vulgar and crude.

Cossy Wed 15-Apr-26 09:43:07

Anniebach

As usual, blame Jews

Not at all Annie, you must know by now that from my perspective I blame ONLY Hamas for the awful kidnapping murders and ONLY Netanyahu for the ongoing Gaza situation, which Trump’s interference has only made longer.

My heart goes out to all the innocents on both sides, and I know you don’t like us saying this, but there are innocent people, even if only children, living in Gaza.

I don’t support Wars or terrorism of any sort and every day pray it ends across the world.

I will state again, I do NOT blame Jews for anything and I DO recognise they’ve been terrorised and abused and discriminated against for centuries and this is very wrong.

We have a community of Orthodox Jews living in our community, they keep themselves to themselves, cause no one any issues and I would support them and speak out if I found out they were being abused in any way, as I would for any minority group.

This is another reason I fear the rise of the far right. flowers

Rosie51 Wed 15-Apr-26 09:46:35

Lots of posters are mentioning that she is extremely well educated. Can somebody please explain to me why that is an admirable attribute that 'excuses' her vulgarity and contempt for the sensibilities of others? I'd have thought being extremely well educated is a privilege denied to many equally able people as herself. Are the uneducated, for whatever reason, less than?

Cossy Wed 15-Apr-26 09:57:47

Rosie51

Lots of posters are mentioning that she is extremely well educated. Can somebody please explain to me why that is an admirable attribute that 'excuses' her vulgarity and contempt for the sensibilities of others? I'd have thought being extremely well educated is a privilege denied to many equally able people as herself. Are the uneducated, for whatever reason, less than?

Don’t think we’re excusing it, the “bad@ language, just pointing out her attributes and for me, these outweigh her mad/bad behaviour.

Swearing just doesn’t bother me that much so kings as it’s kept away from little ones and not shouted out in the street.

Cossy Wed 15-Apr-26 09:58:59

Also, not everyone is bright enough to go to Cambridge, it’s both a privilege and an earned experience.

Anniebach Wed 15-Apr-26 10:06:47

Boris Johnson went to Oxford !

Rosie51 Wed 15-Apr-26 10:08:08

Cossy

Rosie51

Lots of posters are mentioning that she is extremely well educated. Can somebody please explain to me why that is an admirable attribute that 'excuses' her vulgarity and contempt for the sensibilities of others? I'd have thought being extremely well educated is a privilege denied to many equally able people as herself. Are the uneducated, for whatever reason, less than?

Don’t think we’re excusing it, the “bad@ language, just pointing out her attributes and for me, these outweigh her mad/bad behaviour.

Swearing just doesn’t bother me that much so kings as it’s kept away from little ones and not shouted out in the street.

But why is being extremely well educated such an attribute, and does that make less well educated people less than her?

It's not just her swearing but her crudeness and exhibitionism. What do you think about her sexually abusing a young, less powerful, man? Is that also OK because she's well educated or is it OK because of some other attribute?

Cossy Wed 15-Apr-26 10:09:21

Anniebach

Boris Johnson went to Oxford !

Yes he did? Sorry cannot see the point or context Annie, he was very privileged and extremely well educated from a young age, as were much of our government, especially those to the right.

Lots of rich privileged public schoolboys.

Luckygirl3 Wed 15-Apr-26 10:15:35

Her views on Jewish aggression are interesting and I think she is brave to speak out. She is a public figure and could be under threat by doing so, but her principles tell her that humanity trumps all and she is brave enough to say so. She absolutely condemns Hamas for their actions, but she is allowed to say when she feels that Israel is out of order - just because they have suffered terribly does not mean that they cannot be open to criticism when their own actions fall short in her eyes and those of others.

I admire her courage and her principles.

On the subject of her outrageous remarks and language, in general the response seems to be laughter - I'm all for a bit of that!

Cossy Wed 15-Apr-26 10:16:03

Rosie Being well educated doesn’t excuse any bad behaviour, I think we have to put the sexual squeezing episode into context, no it’s not right, should never have happened, but I’m guessing it was done in the same awful spirit as the many many men who “gropped” women in those days. I not excusing this behaviour.

I think anyone who manages to make it into Oxbridge and then actually graduate is worth “bigging up”, it doesn’t make those of us who didn’t any “less”, but it’s certainly a great achievement.

Cossy Wed 15-Apr-26 10:18:34

Luckygirl3

Her views on Jewish aggression are interesting and I think she is brave to speak out. She is a public figure and could be under threat by doing so, but her principles tell her that humanity trumps all and she is brave enough to say so. She absolutely condemns Hamas for their actions, but she is allowed to say when she feels that Israel is out of order - just because they have suffered terribly does not mean that they cannot be open to criticism when their own actions fall short in her eyes and those of others.

I admire her courage and her principles.

On the subject of her outrageous remarks and language, in general the response seems to be laughter - I'm all for a bit of that!

Well said, though I fear we’re in a minority, which for me is absolutely fine, as I guess neither she nor I care what others think in this particular thread.

It’s perfectly ok for others to despise, loathe, dislike her, I happen to enjoy her acting and books and watching and listening to you, each to their own. thanks