Harry and Meghan: The Rise And Fall.

Eazybee, she'd be only an honorary princess until they divorced though not so? I suspect the personage has to be an HRH before the title if 'Princess ' is durable.

Chestnut

The worst case scenario is that Trump/Vance get in the White House because Vance wants to send H&M back to us because of Harry's drug lies. 😱

Exactly. For all Trump's faults he had great respect for our late Queen and might find the prospect of deporting Harry back home an appealing one with a bit of karma added in.

Caleo

David:
"I wouldn’t watch it on principle"

What principle?

Them making money out of trying to humiliate other family members, they didn’t get on, that’s OK go and do your own thing, but to make millions broadcasting your side of the story is the lowest betrayal of all.

I don’t like them much!.

David I agree. It's pretty bad. However I like the King that he still loves his son despite all that.

Meghan disliked Trump didn’t she?

Remember he was asked before their wedding if he had received an invitation.

“Not that I’m aware of” he replied.

The reporter then made some comment, to which Trump said he wished them good luck, adding ,with a grin, “I think Harry’s gonna need it!”.

Well said, Donald! How right you were.

eazybee at the time the early series of The Crown were made the late Queen and Prince Philip, and many others were alive, and I thought they were intrusive then, and still do.
I didn't think Series 1 and 2 were disrespectful and as they covered 1947 to 1964 that is 60-77 years ago. The passage of time does make a difference. I was shocked and horrified they later did everything up to and including Diana's car crash and feel the same as you. Then it carried on until Charles and Camilla's wedding in 2005 (less than 20 years ago). It is immoral and intrusive and I would not even consider watching it. Including the present King, Queen and William in a drama series is totally wrong. Netflix are not a good company, especially after paying H&M such huge amounts for their whinging nonsense.

Caleo

Chestnut, referring to your remarking on Meghan's unfaltering smile, I now recall that part of the popularity of successful royalty such as Princess Anne and the late Queen and even Princess Margaret is their ability to look serious and sober.
Is perpetual grinning an American custom?

I think perpetual grinning must indeed be an American custom. You only have to look at Kamala Harris, she has the same fake smile plastered across her face all the time. I really hate to see people grinning like that. Just look sincere!

I understood that the title Prince can be removed, by the present monarch, as it is the "gift" of the monarch, the Queen at the time of Harry's birth, as to which children are given the title Prince of Princess, but the Dukedom can only be removed by actor parliament. Although I stand to be corrected.

Oh dear, there’s a bit of American knocking going on, with stereotypical comments about their smiles, and “customs”. Such a shame, and rather unpleasant.

You chaps really do hate these two people who you have never met!

Luckygirl3

You chaps really do hate these two people who you have never met!

You got the first two wrong (“chaps”and “hate”) but are spot on with the last bit - and wouldn’t wish to either!

Why is criticism viewed as hate ? My criticism follows what this couple say and do . I dislike liars, I dislike pushy people,
this is not hatred

I quite agree Anniebach. People who are in the public eye, especially those who choose to be in the public eye must expect to have their actions judged and commented upon.

Some will admire and some will be critical. It goes with the territory.

Exactly - I agree. How can any member of OUR Royal Family ever trust either of them again? A conversation over the cornflakes will be leaked to the Press, put into a book or told to Oprah!

After That Book come out, there was a flurry in the Press about PW thwaking his younger brother into the dog bowl, subsequently breaking it. Pictures were shown. Er, um - it was an indestructible stainless steel number!!!

So I think that they only have a passing acquaintance with the truth.

I do hope that Pippa is right, btw.

Yes. Pippa; Harry's title of Prince can be removed as it was in the gift of the late Queen, by virtue of him being the son of a son of the reigning monarch. I can't see Charles removing it, but I bet William would.
His Dukedom is more tricky and requires Parliamentary approval. I believe neither of them are supposed to use the title HRH but it is tolerated.
I think it would probably be more trouble than they are worth to remove any of their titles; the money is where it hurts. Harry's fortune comes from his mother and possibly his grandmother, but how long it will last is anyone's guess.

Caleo

Chestnut, referring to your remarking on Meghan's unfaltering smile, I now recall that part of the popularity of successful royalty such as Princess Anne and the late Queen and even Princess Margaret is their ability to look serious and sober.
Is perpetual grinning an American custom?

I think you may be onto something 😲
Look at Kamala Harris for example.I really wish she would stop it and be serious.

Ziplok

Oh dear, there’s a bit of American knocking going on, with stereotypical comments about their smiles, and “customs”. Such a shame, and rather unpleasant.

I agree Ziplok such generalisations are unnecessary

Living their best lives despite the hate. Love them both.

Can't understand the dislike / hatred that H&M stir up.

Treason?

TO STRIP OR NOT TO STRIP PRINCE HARRY’S TITLES

middletemplar.org.uk/to-strip-or-not-to-strip-prince-harrys-titles/#

The long - and legal- position from them's that know .

Interesting link ixion, thanks. Although I had to read chunks of it twice to get my head around it!

I would think though, that even if they were stripped of all titles their fame* notoriety* popularity* reputation* (* delete as required!) wouldn't diminish their press coverage. I can't imagine the global interest* voyeurism* curiosity* (delete as required, again) would have diminished for Diana.

Thank you ixion, for the link, very interesting.

I am not sure. press coverage of their visit to Columbia has been limited and either bemused or critical.

Wher will they go next North Korea? Russia? (to try and bring peace)? Libya?

These two seem to live in a fantasy world, sight of a camera seems to thrill them and she is ecstatic if she can grab a
microphone

sodapop

Ziplok

Oh dear, there’s a bit of American knocking going on, with stereotypical comments about their smiles, and “customs”. Such a shame, and rather unpleasant.

I agree Ziplok such generalisations are unnecessary

No-on is knocking all Americans, just the people who walk around with a fake grin plastered across their faces, which at the moment seems to be Americans. So maybe it's an American trait. If you can name anyone else who is not American then do.

Anniebach

These two seem to live in a fantasy world, sight of a camera seems to thrill them and she is ecstatic if she can grab a
microphone

🤣🤣🤣