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kircubbin2000 Tue 25-Jun-24 20:50:52

Just seen a clip of him at a pride event where he wishes Kemi Badenoch would shut up and disappear. Then he says we should all be kind to everyone. Except women perhaps??

Callistemon213 Mon 01-Jul-24 16:28:29

It's impossible to like or dislike someone you don't know.

They may have a totally different persona online than in real life 🤔

VioletSky Mon 01-Jul-24 16:30:04

All good my end

Smileless2012 Mon 01-Jul-24 16:37:55

A great picture Wyllow and that's what I call marching with Pride smile.

Mollygo Mon 01-Jul-24 16:42:36

Callistemon213

It's impossible to like or dislike someone you don't know.

They may have a totally different persona online than in real life 🤔

Callistemon213

It's impossible to like or dislike someone you don't know.

Thank you Callistemon213.

Reasonable people know that, which is why, as a reasonable person, I ignored VS’s comment.

VioletSky Mon 01-Jul-24 16:46:45

My name is Violet

And I am right here...

VioletSky Mon 01-Jul-24 16:48:38

Do we need to discuss further how Pride is set up to include children as a positive experience or does everyone now feel comfortable with children attending?

VioletSky Mon 01-Jul-24 16:50:55

Pride is for everyone, truly, every single one of you would be welcomed

GrannyGravy13 Mon 01-Jul-24 16:59:49

I have just been googling Pride around the world.

Seattle 100’s of naked men parading and jiggling their bits and offensive language at anyone suggesting they should cover up.

New York, descending into brawls, even ripping people’s clothes off.

London, fettish clothing, obscene placards spoiling it for the rest. It was good to see the Armed Forces and Service marching.

Still not convinced Pride is for children…

Smileless2012 Mon 01-Jul-24 17:03:46

I don't think anyone needs to discuss anything VS but everyone is free to discuss if they want too.

Well that version of Pride isn't GG which is a shame because it used to be.

VioletSky Mon 01-Jul-24 17:05:12

Again, there are generally different areas of Pride and people may attend where they please...

Googling it looking for excuses not to support it, rather than experiencing it is such a shame

To reassure everyone, no Pride I have attended had any jiggling bits lol

Smileless2012 Mon 01-Jul-24 17:09:42

I'm glad to hear it VS but it does seem to be on the increase which IMO does a disservice to those who want to participate for genuine reasons.

I don't agree that GG googled it to look for excuses not to support it. We don't need need excuses not so support something as we are entitled to choose what we do and do not support.

VioletSky Mon 01-Jul-24 17:13:37

You don't think it is a shame to choose based on a quick Google designed to support an already held view Smileless?

I've always thought to be open minded, that's not how we should go about it

GrannyGravy13 Mon 01-Jul-24 17:17:22

VioletSky

Again, there are generally different areas of Pride and people may attend where they please...

Googling it looking for excuses not to support it, rather than experiencing it is such a shame

To reassure everyone, no Pride I have attended had any jiggling bits lol

I was a supporter of Pride in the beginning as were my friends.

Whether you agree or not in my and many others opinions Pride has been hijacked by a small extremely vocal minority, and as the song says things ain’t what they used to be

VioletSky Mon 01-Jul-24 17:22:12

So all of Pride is no longer acceptable?

We throw away a celebration of being who you are and loving who you love?

We stop acknowledging all the hard fought for rights?

We stop standing up against homophobia with togetherness?

Smileless2012 Mon 01-Jul-24 17:24:14

No I don't think it's a shame to find appropriate evidence to support your point of view on Google or anywhere else VS. You often do the same in fact have done so on this thread.

I agree GG things aint want they used to be and making something different doesn't necessarily make it better; certainly not in this case.

Smileless2012 Mon 01-Jul-24 17:25:31

Your post @ 17.22 bears no relation to what is being said here VS.

VioletSky Mon 01-Jul-24 17:32:40

Yes it does... So let's get that out of the way Smileless

This idea that "a small vocal minority" (I'm not sure what they are vocal about) in some way tarnishes a beautiful celebration is ridiculous

It's like saying an entire wedding celebration was ruined and unsafe for children because your uncle got too drunk and knocked the wedding cake over... Not the fault of the rest of the guests and definitely not the bride and grooms... Just call drunk uncle a taxi and carry on, don't walk out on them

Smileless2012 Mon 01-Jul-24 17:38:17

No it doesn't. Show me where anyone has said any of the things in your post.

In your opinion maybe, but IMO a small vocal minority are tarnishing what was once a tasteful and enjoyable to watch celebration.

Mollygo Mon 01-Jul-24 17:39:46

VS says @17.22

So all of Pride is no longer acceptable

The question should be,
Do you, VioletSky, think that everything that happens at Pride celebrations is acceptable?

VioletSky Mon 01-Jul-24 17:47:29

Mollygo I haven't encountered anything described and would stay away from it if I saw it...

Best I can do really isn't it?

Smileless2012 Mon 01-Jul-24 18:23:12

You say you would stay away from it if you saw it so does that mean you don't find it acceptable?

Mollygo Mon 01-Jul-24 19:08:28

VioletSky

Mollygo I haven't encountered anything described and would stay away from it if I saw it.

Hurray! So you would find some things that happen at Pride events unacceptable. e.g. the rainbow drunkards, the people in vulgar costumes, etc? I didn’t google them, to prove a point, they were on the local news.

🤣🤣🤣

You then presumably understand why some parents or grandparents aren't willing to take their children to Pride events, and have the right not to do so, without being castigated by those like you, who have a different point of view.

Callistemon213 Mon 01-Jul-24 19:23:34

VioletSky

Yes it does... So let's get that out of the way Smileless

This idea that "a small vocal minority" (I'm not sure what they are vocal about) in some way tarnishes a beautiful celebration is ridiculous

It's like saying an entire wedding celebration was ruined and unsafe for children because your uncle got too drunk and knocked the wedding cake over... Not the fault of the rest of the guests and definitely not the bride and grooms... Just call drunk uncle a taxi and carry on, don't walk out on them

Was he half naked at the time?
Or wearing fairy wings?

kircubbin2000 Mon 01-Jul-24 19:30:26

I think most people are sick of pride and they way it's shoved in our faces everywhere. The rainbow used to be a nice colourful thing but now it's associated with all this hoo ha. Also I don't think it's anything to be proud of.

VioletSky Mon 01-Jul-24 19:42:14

I have the right to take my children to Pride without being castigated and so do other parents

That was actually the argument Mollygo wasn't it? Because I haven't done any castigating at all, if people don't want to go, I don't mind