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phoenix Mon 04-Apr-16 19:28:10

And away we go again!

Iam64 Fri 03-Jun-16 13:55:26

I don't know If any parent would be allowed to take a baby living in HMP out for the dat, will find out. In this case, if he was allowed to do so, the baby would not be returned would he. Helen needs legal advice doesn't she. I'm worried rob will be working on Henry, he's already told him in essence to tell those who ask how nasty mummy was.

chelseababy Fri 03-Jun-16 15:40:16

Alan Deveraux (Sid Perks) will be one of the deceased mentioned on Last Word today at 4 on radio 4.

Gracesgran Fri 03-Jun-16 16:52:50

Good thought Aleagrin

merlotgran Fri 03-Jun-16 17:02:18

I don't feel any sympathy for the nasty Ursula but it can't be much fun looking after a tetchy son and a lively but confused little boy. Now Rob is determined to get custody of Giddy Jack, Henry's probably not the only one having nightmares.

You reap what you sow. hmm

Gracesgran Fri 03-Jun-16 17:06:47

With the right person and the right questions they could find out why we need to "tell the truth about mummy", etc. But will that happen? Rob has undermined Henry's memory of the truth just as he did with Helen. If the person knows of the coercive nature of Rob I would think they may ask if anyone has told him what to say ...

Gracesgran Fri 03-Jun-16 19:17:30

A good old Archer's Friday night ending. Will she, won't she?

phoenix Fri 03-Jun-16 19:18:04

As Mr P has been known to say after some episodes "well!"

PS I definitely saw this coming!

chelseababy Fri 03-Jun-16 19:23:49

She will!

Iam64 Fri 03-Jun-16 19:26:14

Phew, Helen starts to talk and talk some sense as well, what a relief. Gracesgran, yes, a suitably trained, experienced and sensitive interviewer will be able to establish whether Henry has been coerced, coached or terrorised into saying whatever it is he says. I'm not attempting to draw people into discussion the dreadful case of the little boy who was murdered by his mother and her partner, I haven't even been able to read all the press coverage But, the relevance to discussions about Henry is that the two young boys in that case were around the same age as Henry and the police/social work team spent 20 hours interviewing those children. Those interviews it is said, helped the court convict the perpetrators. Twenty hours (maybe 10 hours each individual child, I don't know) is reassuring to me given the pressure on sw/police teams to undertake only one or max of three interviews, with such young children as well, you're unlikely to be able to get to the truth of their experiences are you. I don't mean to go off subject, just hope that Henry is given the right opportunity to talk about his experiences. Good for Helen, her information will go to the sw/police team involved.

Gracesgran Fri 03-Jun-16 22:26:09

Ah yes Iam I remember thinking "someone did some good work there" and I have to say I didn't envy them. My niece is a physiologist and works with children and young people. As you can imagine she rarely talks about work and certainly not about cases but I know she has nightmares from time to time. You are right Henry will need quite a bit of support.

Helen has started and hopefully perhaps, with a few hiccups along the way, she will be able to tell all.

Gracesgran Fri 03-Jun-16 22:36:42

Do you know chelseababy I don't think she will but it will be difficult if she has to give up working for him - and give up her allowances!

She is basically a moral person and not really cut out for mistress material. When the relationship with Matt's half-brother Paul started I don't think she saw it as anything other than a relationship she knows this cannot be complete, cannot lead anywhere. Add to that they are both known locally and the secret would soon get out and I would, on balance, guess she won't - with regrets smile

Elrel Sun 05-Jun-16 10:21:40

I think any interested gossips will be talking about JusLil already. They've been shopping and lunching together several times, often extravagantly and flamboyantly. She calls him (and everyone else!) Dahling and has been heard bestowing smackers on his cheek. I thought she was after him in fact. Wasn't Tiger we'd when first they hooked up?

Elrel Sun 05-Jun-16 10:22:23

* wed

LullyDully Sun 05-Jun-16 11:42:52

What shall we do if Ursula wants to join graansnet? What could her name be?so we can look fantastic r her and give her advice?

LullyDully Sun 05-Jun-16 11:43:25

Out for her!!!!

merlotgran Sun 05-Jun-16 11:55:59

Just so long as she doesn't recommend Hansel and Gretel for Kids Book of the Month. shock

AyjayF Sun 05-Jun-16 12:05:04

Ursula must be getting pretty cheesed off with Henry by now + how is Bruce coping without her? Funny Miles hasn't been to see his brother

Morghew70 Sun 05-Jun-16 12:24:15

I agree Ayjay F - Much as Ursula might adore being with Rob I can't see Bruce letting her go for so long (unless he has a mistress - now there's a thought!). Also Henry is not her grandchild - does she really want to spend all her time cooking, washing, cleaning and driving him around on top of looking after Rob. Don't know how old she is but she must have a lot of energy.

Nelliemoser Sun 05-Jun-16 12:29:53

I think Rob has only been interested in keeping Henry with him is as a way controlling and intimidating Helen.

Elrel Sun 05-Jun-16 12:47:53

Did anyone present at the 'I'll kill him' outburst mention to Anna or the police that it was prompted by Rob's plan to send Henry to boarding school? Of course we don't know what Pat said to the police.

Gracesgran Sun 05-Jun-16 12:51:44

I agree about the control bit Nellie, control until the trial too. I am hoping for good interviewing from the defence side when it comes to poor little Henry.

Morghew70 I think they would be prepared for her to stay as Rob was so badly injured. What I find it more interesting that Bruce has not visited and I do wonder about Rob's relationship with his brother.

LullyDully Sun 05-Jun-16 17:47:50

I am releaved Rob is showing his true colours to the rest of the family. Peggy was very brave taking herself off to the house alone. He is really getting nasty which should play against him with some luck.

..Henry is who I rely feel sorry for. He was living a happy, ordinary life with mummy and his grandparents, now he is in a mess, taught to despise Helen. He must be showing symptoms of stress at school.

phoenix Sun 05-Jun-16 19:16:37

Lilian! shock grin

Gracesgran Sun 05-Jun-16 19:25:25

I couldn't have got that more wrong could I? grin I shall have to review Lillian's character. I did wonder with you reminding us that Matt was married when they met Elrel but I was still sure that she would be protecting herself.

And mention of the referendum - neatly done to give a balanced farmers view.

... and more chat about Rob generally which, I feel, can do no harm.

The BFA do need to get the shop sorted though.

Good episode; interestingly it is the first of Keri Davies fortnight of being SW so let's hope it continues in this stylesmile

Gracesgran Mon 06-Jun-16 00:24:33

Thought you might like What do you only know because you listen to The Archers?

Best to have your guess before you read - other than understanding more than I ever thought I would about coercive control I would have chosen several of these grin and a couple made me laugh out loud!

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