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The Lost Honour of Christopher Jefferies

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GrannyTwice Wed 10-Dec-14 23:38:16

Anyone watched this? I found it very powerful on many levels including what it says about our gutter tabloid press. Looking forward to the second part tomorrow

crun Thu 11-Dec-14 00:34:06

I loved the way the solicitor ripped into them just as they were letting him go.

Eloethan Thu 11-Dec-14 01:22:51

I thought the was very well done and the actor who played Chris Jefferies was brilliant. It really was quite shocking that someone could be put through such an ordeal on such flimsy grounds.

I remember at the time by brother in law came round after CJ was arrested and started talking as if he had already been tried and found guilty.

The way newspapers and TV behaved was disgraceful. If he had been guilty, I would have thought that a good case could have been made that it would be almost impossible for jurors to approach the case with an open and untainted mind, given the distorted and sensationalist coverage.

GrannyTwice Thu 11-Dec-14 08:42:22

Eleo that's why the Sun and the Mirror were charged and found guilty of , I think it was, contempt of court. It really was one of the most serious cases ever in terms of media, and especially, press behaviour. I think the point of the drama is that. more than the police and their fixation on him ( However had CJ not had the support and help of friends, he'd probably still be in jail for her murder).When people defend the gutter tabloid press and make pathetic jokes about the Guardian, I think about examples like CJ and know why I read what I do.

KatyK Thu 11-Dec-14 11:00:44

It was a really good drama. There were lots of people who thought this man was guilty just because of the way he looked. I'm glad he sued the 'newspapers'.

whitewave Thu 11-Dec-14 11:14:30

This had a good write up so will be watching sometime today if time.

felice Thu 11-Dec-14 13:23:31

What channel was it on I heard it talked about on the radio but did not see it, not on BBC perhaps. I would have liked to have watched it as was horrified at the way he was treated.

crun Thu 11-Dec-14 13:25:06

If anything like that happens in my neighbourhood, it'll be my doorstep the tabloids are camping on. If fit the stereotype: middle aged eccentric loner, never married etc. etc.

He'll do.

whitewave Thu 11-Dec-14 13:31:23

Just watched this on play back. What a delightful character, I would so like to have met him!!

felice Thu 11-Dec-14 13:53:34

Just discovered it was on ITV, so will possibly be on one of the Belgian or Dutch channels I will keep and eye out for it, the case was covered on the news here so should be enough interest for a channel to buy it.

whenim64 Thu 11-Dec-14 14:05:02

An excellent programme and I'm looking forward to watching the second part tonight. I was struck by his dignity and would like to have known him. The loyalty of his friends must have been invaluable to him. I saw a comment in the reviews about his part in Leverson, and how he had been 'emancipated' by his efforts and resulting success.

Lapwing Thu 11-Dec-14 16:11:58

Unfortunately he was not the first nor will he be the last to be treated in this way. Hopefully the press have learned a lesson but I fear not.

Stansgran Thu 11-Dec-14 22:16:08

It must be harrowing for the young man who was the dead girl's partner to have all this on tv just before Christmas about the same time as when she died. As well as for her family and his. Have the film makers lost all sense of decorum?

GrannyTwice Thu 11-Dec-14 23:17:08

I wondered about the involvement with her family and boyfriend. I hope very much that they were consulted and gave the drama their blessing. I thought it was good at the end that it went back to Greg and the herb garden

rubysong Thu 11-Dec-14 23:23:05

DS1 and family were living in Bristol at the time and we were all upset about it. This week's programmes were very well done and the actor gave a remarkable performance. The press always love saying the person arrested is a 'loner' as if that makes them suspect automatically. There is no connection between being a loner and being a murderer.

harrigran Fri 12-Dec-14 17:57:28

I enjoyed it, I thought they covered every aspect with great respect to Christopher Jefferies. Just proves you should not judge a book by it's cover, it is not a crime to be different.
Christopher reminded me a lot of my recently deceased cousin, he lived alone and was eccentric and was a teacher. I could imagine the feeling of violation my cousin would have felt had the police gone in and turned his house upside down and moved all his books.
You have to respect the man, he kept his dignity throughout, despite bumbling police work.

henetha Fri 12-Dec-14 18:06:55

This was stunningly good, wasn't it. Marvellously written and acted.
What a dreadful ordeal Christopher Jefferies endured at the hands of our rotten press.
I got the impression from an interview which I saw that all concerned were fully consulted about the showing of this docu-drama. I hope so anyway.

MrsJamJam Fri 12-Dec-14 19:11:25

Best serious drama for a long time. Thought the actor playing CJ was brilliant, the most expressive hands ever.

But will it have any effect on the witch hunt mentality which seems to strike distressinngly often?

Eloethan Fri 12-Dec-14 20:17:25

Do the police really leave a property in such a mess after they've searched it? It seems totally wrong, particularly as he'd done nothing wrong and his whole life was turned upside down.

It really was a very touching performance.

Ana Fri 12-Dec-14 20:22:39

I think they must do, Eloethan. Similar scenes have been shown on many tv programmes, and some actual news footage. I suppose the police don't consider it their job to tidy up afterwards - perhaps they aren't even allowed to.

whitewave Sat 13-Dec-14 11:54:00

utterly outstanding - this must be up for an award. The actor playing the lead was wonderful, and I found myself in absolute sympathy with the character.

glammanana Sat 13-Dec-14 16:53:57

Eloethan same thoughts expressed here when I saw that scene on CJ returning home,his friends who supported him when he was first released must not have thought about sending someone in to check the state of his home after the Police search. I found it very upsetting and felt for him dreadfully.
This programme must be up for an award as one of the best to be made in the past few years,the brilliant acting by all parties was second to none.

rosequartz Sat 13-Dec-14 19:58:05

Do the police really leave a property in such a mess after they've searched it? It seems totally wrong, particularly as he'd done nothing wrong and his whole life was turned upside down.

Unfortunately, when investigating a crime these things happen, even when a person is subsequently found to be innocent and sometimes the destruction of property is an essential part of the investigation.

ruby it was on our local news and was extremely upsetting. The media did make it worse. And they carry on doing so, putting this on at this time of year, which must have been so upsetting for Joanna's parents and her boyfriend.

GrannyTwice Sat 13-Dec-14 20:18:51

Amazing isn't it, an issue in all this is about jumping to conclusions. And what do some posters do? Jump to conclusions about how the parents and boyfriend feel. I've heard a very different take - that they were consulted and happy for it to go ahead. Remember, if CJ had been guilty, there could well have been a mistrial declared- perhaps they have thought about that and the message the drama sends?

rosequartz Sat 13-Dec-14 21:09:57

That is good, GrannyTwice, I am glad to hear it.

They are obviously good people who want justice to be seen to be done and a further demonstration of Mr Jefferies's innocence portrayed to the public in this way.