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First woman murdered by early release prisoner. How many more?

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Sarnia Thu 08-Oct-26 21:47:37

Robert Sabat, a prisoner serving a sentence for knife offences and harassing a former partner, was released in the first wave of Labour's early release scheme in October 2026.
He returned to the home he was sharing with his partner and days after being released, murdered her. He has been handed a life sentence of 17 years and 1 month and is back in prison.
This poor lady's family must be furious with a Government who think this is an acceptable solution to prison overcrowding.

Graphite Thu 08-Oct-26 22:04:14

This isn’t quite what you are describing.

He was released last year having served 40% of a 12 month sentence instead of 50%.

He had been convicted of possession of a bladed article and harassment.

He had been in prison on remand since May 2025 when he was released on licence from HMP Wandsworth on 17 October 2025.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8040lwewkepo

Oreo Thu 08-Oct-26 22:04:42

But….he could have done the very same thing if he hadn’t been released early but when he did come out.
I would have moved away if I had been her.

BoggledMind Thu 08-Oct-26 22:06:52

This has nothing to do with the Labour early release scheme as it relates to his release on 17th October last year.

Absolutely shocking nevertheless and her family will indeed be furious.

BoggledMind Thu 08-Oct-26 22:07:52

Sorry for repeating your post Graphite, I was typing as you posted.

Sarnia Thu 08-Oct-26 23:18:19

BoggledMind

This has nothing to do with the Labour early release scheme as it relates to his release on 17th October last year.

Absolutely shocking nevertheless and her family will indeed be furious.

He was in the first wave of early release prisoners in October 2025.

Graphite Thu 08-Oct-26 23:44:00

Yes and he was released after 40% of his 12 month sentence instead of 50%. He would have served 21 weeks instead of 26 weeks.

He is said to have been in a relationship with the women he subsequently killed and also to have been brought up by her father so it sounds like a complicated family situation.

Do you really think 5 weeks made any difference to what happened?

Margs Fri 09-Oct-26 04:05:30

Oreo

But….he could have done the very same thing if he hadn’t been released early but when he did come out.
I would have moved away if I had been her.

But it isn't that easy to just upsticks and move away.

Besides, your comment implies that his victim must bear some percentage of responsibility.

vegansrock Fri 09-Oct-26 04:24:45

Poor woman - and all those women murdered by men they are or have been in a relationship with. If the prison system hadn't been at breaking point after 14 years of austerity this early release scheme would not have been forced on the government. They aren't just doing it to be nice to criminals. They just is no capacity - prison officers are being recruited from Albania, Nigeria and all over because there is a recruitment crisis - the experienced officers were got rid of under Tory cuts and they are paid peanuts for a very tough job. Some prisons are even privatised - run for profit - no wonder prisons are rife with drugs and gangs.

nanna8 Fri 09-Oct-26 05:19:13

I just feel really, really sorry for other women who have to face that their abusers have been let out of jail early. It must be absolutely terrifying .

Allsorts Fri 09-Oct-26 06:17:34

So a life is worth just 17?years in prison, less after remission. Soon they will be getting more for a motoring offence.

NotSpaghetti Fri 09-Oct-26 07:49:25

Please read Graphite's posts.
"When he was released in October 2025, Sabat had served 40% of his 12-month sentence instead of the previous 50% requirement."

He hadn't been in prison before this as far as I can see.

Oreo Fri 09-Oct-26 07:55:03

Margs

Oreo

But….he could have done the very same thing if he hadn’t been released early but when he did come out.
I would have moved away if I had been her.

But it isn't that easy to just upsticks and move away.

Besides, your comment implies that his victim must bear some percentage of responsibility.

No, my comment implies nothing of the sort.If I had a violent ex who may well come after me on prison release I would def not stay at the same address.
No, it isn’t easy but it’s what I would have done the minute he entered prison.

Galaxy Fri 09-Oct-26 07:56:46

He had convictions including assault , burglary and harassment, had restraining order, and non molestation order. A clear danger to women.

Galaxy Fri 09-Oct-26 07:59:07

He would have found her and killed her whatever she did. If a man needs restraining orders and non harassment orders he is very dangerous.

OldFrill Fri 09-Oct-26 08:06:00

NotSpaghetti

Please read Graphite's posts.
"When he was released in October 2025, Sabat had served 40% of his 12-month sentence instead of the previous 50% requirement."

He hadn't been in prison before this as far as I can see.

From sentencing -
Defense Mitigation: Defense barrister Alisdair Williamson KC highlighted the defendant's unstable life "on the margins," frequent jail spells, and severe mental health struggles, including depression and anxiety

Source Telegraph

Vintagewhine Fri 09-Oct-26 08:06:06

The overcrowded prisons are just another huge problem that labour has inherited from the previous Conservative govts. What timely solution is there to it other than the early release of prisoners? It's easy to criticise much more difficult to offer a workable solution.

Allsorts Fri 09-Oct-26 08:18:40

It seems prisons are just holding pens for lots of people, including homeless, mentally ill who have been let down by the system and families. How can they ever improve? Prison is a punishment, removal of liberty, but it should be about rehabilitation. They should never be there in the first place.Society is breaking around us, not enough housing, yet more people streaming in, everything done on the Internet without any personal involvement ir caring, it's hard to negotiate for many.

Allsorts Fri 09-Oct-26 08:21:06

Odd words alter on this very old machine once send is pressed. It just changed machine to Macbeth but just before I pressed send. Apologies.

BoggledMind Fri 09-Oct-26 08:34:20

Sarnia

I'm confused. You have corrected me by stating 'He was in the first wave of early release prisoners in October 2025.' But your opening post clearly says '...was released in the first wave of Labour's early release scheme in October 2026.'

Which year's releases are we supposed to be discussing? 2025 or 2026? They are two different things (this year is covered by the Sentencing Act 2026, which is different from last year's change in offenders' automatic release date rules).

eazybee Fri 09-Oct-26 09:19:24

So, where would you put these people?
Many domestic abusers harbour resentment and revenge, but they cannot be held indefinitely and their sentence will inevitably be completed.I have no idea how or even if, they could be rehabilitated within the prison system.

Cossy Fri 09-Oct-26 09:20:48

I’m appalled at this murder.

The police should have protected this poor ex partner far better.

However, to use this horrific murder to “point score” politically and to misreport isn’t great.

This appalling man would most likely have committed further crimes upon release whether early, on time or late!

It’s not any political party’s fault, he’s a vile horrible man.

Both Conservatives and Labour use the early release scheme, which I think is a dreadful idea and I just think the entire justice and prison system is broken.

Cossy Fri 09-Oct-26 09:23:12

eazybee

So, where would you put these people?
Many domestic abusers harbour resentment and revenge, but they cannot be held indefinitely and their sentence will inevitably be completed.I have no idea how or even if, they could be rehabilitated within the prison system.

Great question. Where indeed.

I don’t think any of us have the answer.

We have nowhere near enough prison space and not enough bail hostels, not enough probation offices and not enough police officers. This isn’t new, but it is a massive issue.

Cossy Fri 09-Oct-26 09:24:12

Allsorts

It seems prisons are just holding pens for lots of people, including homeless, mentally ill who have been let down by the system and families. How can they ever improve? Prison is a punishment, removal of liberty, but it should be about rehabilitation. They should never be there in the first place.Society is breaking around us, not enough housing, yet more people streaming in, everything done on the Internet without any personal involvement ir caring, it's hard to negotiate for many.

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It all comes down to money, resources and much better investments in training.

greyfur16 Fri 09-Oct-26 09:27:09

I suppose basic infra structure like prisons, roads, utilities are not fit for purpose. We are hanging by a thread.