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Rupert Lowe and the “rowers” haha

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Cossy Tue 18-Aug-26 11:09:48

I don’t pretend to like Lowe, or his extreme right wing rhetoric and misogynistic views BUT …..

I have a grudging admiration for him, he does donate his entire MP salary each month to a different local charity in his constituency.

Also, he mistook some charity raising rowers, rowing around our British coast and reported them as Asylum Seekers trying to sneak in.

When his error was pointed out to him, he wouldn’t apologise, but instead he donated £1,000 to their charity, a very worthy cause, Motor Neurone Disease.

He also does run surgeries and has a half decent voting record in the HoC, in other words he’s doing the job as an MP he’s paid to do and he serves his constituency well.

I’d never ever vote for him, I’m not keen on him as a person nor his political and sometimes personal views, BUT he appears to take his MP role seriously.

Maremia Tue 18-Aug-26 11:11:58

Yes, so it would seem.

Graphite Tue 18-Aug-26 12:06:41

The Pledge: Following his election in July 2024, Lowe committed to giving his monthly net parliamentary salary to a different local cause each month.

An MP's gross annual salary is now £98,559. As a very wealthy man he will be paying tax at 45% so the net amount would be £54,230.

He’s pension age so won’t be paying NIC.

(I wonder if he claims his State Pension? Days ago he called for an end to the triple lock so wants make pensioners poorer.)

Charities can claim Gift Aid from the government making the annual donations worth £67,787.

Lowe can then claim higher rate tax relief of £16,947 against his overall income.

The net cost to him is therefore £37,283 or just £3,106 per month.

He earns more than that a month constantly tweeting abuse on X. In June 2026, the latest MPs registration available, he earned £11,724.97.

His latest tweets include a picture of himself holding a Restore publication titled Mass Deportations; a call for the death penalty; a tweet abusing the British Dental Association for calling out his lies that migrants receive priority NHS dental care; and one complaining about the recent mobile phone alert about fire risk in which he says “I hate the Government so very much."

If I were a trustee of a Lowestoft charity I would rather obtain income by other means than from this hateful man.

Sarnia Tue 18-Aug-26 12:25:38

His generosity does him credit but I find much of what he says too extreme for me. As a person he clearly has a caring side but as an MP he wouldn't get my vote.

foxie48 Tue 18-Aug-26 12:38:42

Farage could do that with his £5million bung from Harborne. I wonder which charities he'd support. Gamblers Anonymous would be a good one considering Farage's links to Posh George and Reform's alleged links to Tether.bet.

MayBee70 Tue 18-Aug-26 12:52:04

Unlike poor people supporting Farage I do understand why some people support Lowe. I know someone who is from a farming family and is very much into country sports and feels that no one supports and understands country folk in the way that Lowe does. She's also very much a traditionalist which I can relate too. Unfortunately it means that she ignores any Restore policies outside of that but it's because she feels somewhat persecuted by other parties. Much as I dislike Lowe the sight of him doesn't turn my stomach the way that Farage does [and that isn't just due to his physical appearance because Tice has the same effect on me, too].

Graphite Tue 18-Aug-26 12:56:10

I’m not sure I like the expression virtue signalling but in his case that’s what he’s doing. The donations operate as publicity stunts and photo opportunities for him.

His latest tweet about his latest donation:

I get accused of many things, but I am quite evidently not in politics for the money.

Why the need to say that? Many people donate to charity quietly and privately without this fanfare.

What I don’t see him doing is any physical volunteering as many people do, giving their time freely. Instead of spending hours tweeting abuse for money he could do a regular shift at a charity shop, food bank or other worthy cause.

A recent donor to Lowe’s Restore party said “the world needed another Hitler”. That’s who he is accepting money from. He claims he is not in politics for the money but will happily accept it from a Nazi.

MaizieD Tue 18-Aug-26 13:18:24

He also wants to deregulate gun ownership because, apparently, his father was very upset about having to hand in his guns after Dunblane.

Allsorts Wed 19-Aug-26 08:00:08

I think more like Sarnia on him. He does address issues such as illegals that concern most people but nothing is done.

foxie48 Wed 19-Aug-26 08:23:27

Allsorts but things have happened, there's been a 43% reduction in people arriving by small boat since last year despite the smugglers using much bigger boats. 70K people with no legal right to be in the UK have been removed this year. There has been more police success in tracking down the people smugglers and arresting them. More has happened with this Labour government than in the years of Conservative government, who let the situation grow with their complete inaction.

Jaxjacky Wed 19-Aug-26 08:44:42

Don’t spoil a good story with facts foxie 🙂

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 19-Aug-26 09:01:43

Well foxie apparently the number of foreigners claiming benefits hit a fresh high just days after Reform promised to ban claims by overseas nationals.

So something doesn’t add up from your inspirational figures!

Almost 1.3 million migrants were claiming Universal Credit (UC) in May 2026, according to figures published by the Department for Work and Pensions, roughly 20,000 higher than a year ago.

LemonJam Wed 19-Aug-26 09:28:44

Asylum seekers arriving in small boats are not eligible to claim universal credit as far as I understand.

Of those people claiming Universal approx 37.8% will be in employment (ie low paid work) and around 50% not in work due to long term sickness, disability or caring responsibilities ( ie looking after children, partners or elderly parent).

Of those claiming Universal Credit around 15.5% to 16% at any given time are non British citizens, (i.e. migrants) while roughly 84% to 84.5% are UK, Irish or Right of Abode citizens under Common Travel rules.

Cossy Wed 19-Aug-26 09:28:55

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well foxie apparently the number of foreigners claiming benefits hit a fresh high just days after Reform promised to ban claims by overseas nationals.

So something doesn’t add up from your inspirational figures!

Almost 1.3 million migrants were claiming Universal Credit (UC) in May 2026, according to figures published by the Department for Work and Pensions, roughly 20,000 higher than a year ago.

Ah, that may well be so, but what you may have forgotten is, Universal Credit, the means tested benefit, is paid to both working and non-working people and also covers the old housing benefit.

Also any non-british resident claiming UC, whether working or not has to undergo a regular jobcentre appointment, called HRT ( this caused me both great amusement and confusion when I first worked at a jobcentre).

It means Habitual Residency Test, it’s quite a gruelling interview and it checks both working and non-working non/Brits, and primarily serves two purposes, checks that they are settled in authorised accommodation and that they have stable sustainable paid work. If this interview criteria is not fully met, benefits can be stopped.

Stats on their own, without context, can sometimes be misleading or not tell the full story.

Cossy Wed 19-Aug-26 09:32:26

LemonJam

Asylum seekers arriving in small boats are not eligible to claim universal credit as far as I understand.

Of those people claiming Universal approx 37.8% will be in employment (ie low paid work) and around 50% not in work due to long term sickness, disability or caring responsibilities ( ie looking after children, partners or elderly parent).

Of those claiming Universal Credit around 15.5% to 16% at any given time are non British citizens, (i.e. migrants) while roughly 84% to 84.5% are UK, Irish or Right of Abode citizens under Common Travel rules.

Universal Credit and any other mainstream benefits are only paid, if and when, any non-British passport hold obtains both settled status, ie “right to remain@ and “right to work”.

Sometimes “just right to remain” is granted, but without “right to work”, no benefits may be claimed.

Graphite Wed 19-Aug-26 09:45:49

FGT. You are repeating yet another story from the Telegraph which is not based on fact - just a paper with an agenda which fits yours.

Read the numbers published by the DWP:

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/universal-credit-quarterly-statistics-29-april-2013-to-14-may-2026/universal-credit-quarterly-statistics-29-april-2013-to-14-may-2026

Extracts:

There were 8.4 million people on Universal Credit in May 2026.

Move to Universal Credit claimants [from legacy benefits] made up 73.2% of the increase between May 2025 and May 2026.

Universal Credit claimants are asked to answer optional equality questions when making their claim. In May 2026, 74.8% of Universal Credit claimants had provided information on their high-level ethnic group (5 options) or sub-group (18 options).

Therefore, Universal Credit ethnicity statistics should be treated with caution due to a degree of non-completion.

White is the largest, high-level ethnic group for Universal Credit claimants. 76.6% of those claiming Universal Credit in May 2026 were from the White ethnic group. The Asian/Asian British ethnicity group is the second largest with 9.9% of claimants in May 2026. The Black/African/Caribbean/Black British ethnicity group accounts for 6.0% of claimants in May 2026, while the Other ethnic group accounts for 4.5%. The smallest ethnic group is the Mixed/Multiple with 3.0% of claimants in May 2026.

“CTA – UK, Ireland, Right of Abode”, “EU Settlement Scheme”, and “Indefinite Leave to Remain” together account for 96.2% of the Universal Credit caseload, with the remaining 3.8% being people with other types of immigration status. This is in line with the general principle that only people who are settled in the UK or protected by the EU Exit Withdrawal Agreement should be able to claim Universal Credit.

The numbers from the DT simply don't accord with those from the DWP.

Sago Wed 19-Aug-26 09:56:27

MaizieD

He also wants to deregulate gun ownership because, apparently, his father was very upset about having to hand in his guns after Dunblane.

He does not want to deregulate gun ownership.

The gun licensing laws are potentially to be merged to a single licensing system.

Currently you have a firearms arms certificate and a shotgun certificate each has a very different set of restrictions.
The shotgun certificate is not as stringent, you can add, remove or transfer guns with permission.

A firearms certificate had much stricter control, each firearm has to be justified.

To merge the two will create a greater administrative burden on the Police.

To own a shotgun or firearm in the UK is not easy and rightly so, we can have spot checks at anytime, any breach will mean the guns are confiscated immediately.

Graphite Wed 19-Aug-26 10:02:19

Just to add that Lowe gets up early in the morning to start making money from X for racist tweets. This morning’s gem:

Restaurants. Petrol stations. Taxis. Supermarkets. Anyone using their eyes can see that we have imported millions of young foreign men to fill low-skilled jobs that should be filled by young British men and women. These men are primarily from India or similar, and to be frank - struggle to speak English.

I assume when Lowe says British he means white. Why does Lowe think it is an ambition of white Britons to do low-skilled jobs?

Surely every job has to be applied for. Why would an employer favour an Indian who does not speak English over a white Briton?

Britain has a long history of importing overseas labour to do jobs that Britons do not want to do.

LemonJam Wed 19-Aug-26 10:10:26

Cossy 9.32- yes I am aware of that.

AGAA4 Wed 19-Aug-26 10:17:56

FGT the Telegraph is owned by the Axel Springer group in Germany. They also own the German paper Bild well known there for fake news and sensationalism.
I would be wary of believing much that they print.

theworriedwell Wed 19-Aug-26 12:21:24

Cossy

I don’t pretend to like Lowe, or his extreme right wing rhetoric and misogynistic views BUT …..

I have a grudging admiration for him, he does donate his entire MP salary each month to a different local charity in his constituency.

Also, he mistook some charity raising rowers, rowing around our British coast and reported them as Asylum Seekers trying to sneak in.

When his error was pointed out to him, he wouldn’t apologise, but instead he donated £1,000 to their charity, a very worthy cause, Motor Neurone Disease.

He also does run surgeries and has a half decent voting record in the HoC, in other words he’s doing the job as an MP he’s paid to do and he serves his constituency well.

I’d never ever vote for him, I’m not keen on him as a person nor his political and sometimes personal views, BUT he appears to take his MP role seriously.

I don't think refusing to apologise is anything to admire him for.

FriedGreenTomatoes2 Wed 19-Aug-26 15:10:53

AGAA4 the figures were published by the Department for Work and Pensions, easily verifiable, no spin.

Hence my comment.

MaizieD Wed 19-Aug-26 18:13:17

FriedGreenTomatoes2

Well foxie apparently the number of foreigners claiming benefits hit a fresh high just days after Reform promised to ban claims by overseas nationals.

So something doesn’t add up from your inspirational figures!

Almost 1.3 million migrants were claiming Universal Credit (UC) in May 2026, according to figures published by the Department for Work and Pensions, roughly 20,000 higher than a year ago.

Graphite posted a selection of the DWP figures at 9.45 this morning. They cover the ethnicity of Universal Credit claimants.

Where do ‘foreigners’ and ‘migrants’ fit in?

Allsorts Wed 19-Aug-26 18:22:18

Foxie, I hope you are right but I cannot see all those illegals being sent home as most ripped up passports, all those men on the loose and we know nothing of them. Come here legally, integrate, work, speak English, show respect by being respectful but I am afraid there's a lot of the worst coming.

Graphite Wed 19-Aug-26 19:01:51

The numbers that FGT quotes are lifted from the Telegraph but she omits to include the caveats in the article that:

• Over half of the foreign nationals claiming UC are from the EU and are therefore allowed to claim UC under the legally binding EU withdrawal agreement.

•The increase in UC numbers is to do with people moving to UC from legacy benefits.

Foxie said:

there's been a 43% reduction in people arriving by small boat since last year despite the smugglers using much bigger boats. 70K people with no legal right to be in the UK have been removed this year.

FGT replied: Well foxie apparently the number of foreigners claiming benefits hit a fresh high just days after Reform promised to ban claims by overseas nationals.

So something doesn’t add up from your inspirational figures!

Almost 1.3 million migrants were claiming Universal Credit (UC) in May 2026, according to figures published by the Department for Work and Pensions, roughly 20,000 higher than a year ago.

Foxie is talking about one thing and FGT is talking about another.

The key percentages are is Table 1. Percentage of people on Universal Credit by Immigration status, Great Britain, May 2026

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/universal-credit-quarterly-statistics-29-april-2013-to-14-may-2026/universal-credit-quarterly-statistics-29-april-2013-to-14-may-2026

Claimants who are CTA – UK, Ireland, Right of Abode and EU nationals make up 93.4% of all UC recipients.

(The Common Travel Area (CTA) is a special travel zone that allows for free movement between the UK, Ireland, the Isle of Man, and the Channel Islands (Jersey, Guernsey).)

The number of people claiming UC whose status is Humanitarian, Refugee, Indefinite Leave to Remain or Limited Leave to Remain (which may or may not be people who arrived on a small boat) is fewer that 500,000.

DWP also make it clear that the figures may also include some people who previously held IDLR status (2.8% of recipients) and have since naturalised as British.