Gaza, I despair.

At least 13 killed in Israeli strikes on Gaza after Hamas agree disarmament deal
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More photos go ruins. and people so used ti it "its normal"

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjlvvkzj20o

Now, why would there be Israeli strikes during ongoing negotiations?
Could it deliberate provocation?
To sabotage the talks?

I think the idea is to force their hands so they get what the current Israeli regime want.

But if they want to get ordinary Gazan people on their side, its a pretty rotten and corrupt way to do it imo - why, it just creates more hostility from the population.

Hamas set a goal, “kill all Jews”

Meanwhile Israelis seem to be trying to kill all Palestinians

Didn’t see it myself but my partner says that Sky News have footage of ambulance staff being held at gunpoint when they were trying to save a woman and her unborn child, which resulted in only the woman surviving. The IDF are denying it. He was in tears when he told me about it.

Anyone who commits these sort of crimes is less than human imo.

We have witnessed these sort of crimes being committed in the last century and the world condemned them.

There is no justification for that MayBee70.

Samwam

It was.mentioned by the surgeon in interview. He said he tried to tell Starmer about the atrocities he saw happening and tried to treat but Starmer didn't want to know.

I for one wouldn't want to see pics and video of atrocities occurring, not even to prove that they are genuine. Either you believe what a respected experienced surgeon tells you is happening or you don't. Seeing the pictures isn't necessary.

What could Starmer do that would make Netanyahu stop this carnage, anyway, once he is this far in with Trump's blessing?

Just listening to Jeremy Bowan - oh Gaza - you poor, poor souls.

Elegran, there isn't much our PM can do just now, but something as little as making it harder for money to flow there through trade, could be a start.

Hamas I despair, they refuse to disarm so nothing changes how much more suffering must Gaza suffer. Hamas started this war yet will not admit defeat.

It is no longer a war. It is a genocide.

Netanyahu has a General Election imminent and certainly can't afford to lose: if he does get voted out he can't rely on Trump to throw him a lifeline.

Trump readily throws political allies and advisers to the lions.

David49

Hamas I despair, they refuse to disarm so nothing changes how much more suffering must Gaza suffer. Hamas started this war yet will not admit defeat.

Yes so sad, all Israel has to do is recognise that Gaza exists as a sovereign state, and Hamas will disarm, but it won’t so they won’t.

Not sure how happy Trump is with Netanyahu at the moment.
Why?
Remember the food truck sneaky transfer, because of an imminent threat.
Which thankfully never happened.
But now Trump looks like a coward, and his minions feel betrayed, and nasty folk are suggesting that Israel made a fool of him.
We of course won't ever discover the truth behind the threat, but that doesn't matter because with Trump, it's the optics.
And he was made to look ridiculous.

Netanyahu's also been publicly defying Trump lately; just when Trump could do with looking in control of something in his foreign policy, Netanyahu's treating his requests contempt.

Yes, some sort of sanctions, or at least being UK brave enough to propose in the UN that Israel face sanctions, would at least show that we don't condone the genocide.& although we no longer export arms to Israel, we still host & trade with Israeli arms manufacturers.

Whitewavemark2

David49

Hamas I despair, they refuse to disarm so nothing changes how much more suffering must Gaza suffer. Hamas started this war yet will not admit defeat.

Yes so sad, all Israel has to do is recognise that Gaza exists as a sovereign state, and Hamas will disarm, but it won’t so they won’t.

Gaza isnt a soveriegn and cant exist as an independant sovereign state, it can only exist with support of others, but nobody wants to support Palestinians, certainly not Egypt they don't want anything to do with Gaza.
In any case there won't be peace while Hamas are active.

We will have to disagree there.

Security minister Ben-Gvir has called for nightly targeted eliminations of 30 or 40 people in Gaza.
1200 have been killed since the cease fire.

So that makes it okay to continue killing Palestinians?
Just because they are not a sovereign nation?
Perhaps I misunderstand your comment David.

From recent reports David, it was Israel who scuppered the negotiations.

Isreal is rogue terrorist state it has been killing Palistinian civilians called mowing the lawn for decades and now bombing at least six other countries

It is an ethno zioist colonial state. It will never have peace if it will not agree to let the Palestinians have equal rights that's what Palestinians dearly want equality.

Jews are allowed in from many countries but the semic Palestinians are not allowed the right of return return, are refugees in their own land.

Isreal must learn to live at peace with its neighbours not to continue perpetual wars.

Countries including the UK must stop all arms, diplomacy and sanction Isreal.

Isreal's apartheid illegal occupation ethnic cleansing and genocide must stop.

Fair summary Samwan.

Family including children sat at a seafront cafe, enjoying the sun.

All slaughtered by Israel yesterday.

Evil