In his latest rant Trump has said he could stop the trade deal he agreed to with the UK, after Reeves criticised the fact that the war in Iran has no exit plan.
I think the truth is that as the ongoing war continues to wreak havoc with the world economy there will be many governments speaking out more robustly about Trumps costly error which will affect their people adversely. He has made a humongous mess of things and rather than face this is lashing out at governments well and truly pee’ed off with rising prices at the petrol pumps and rising energy bills, as well as prices going up in the shops and mortgages in the UK affected, not sure if the increase in mortgages is the case for other countries but they will certainly be experiencing a cost of living crisis.
eazybee
Absolutely not.
We had a reasonable trade deal with America, better than most, which has been systematically undone by Starmer's behaviour.
His intention has always been to return to Europe, ignoring the democratic result of the Referendum, and he is achieving his aim. Disaster awaits.
Starmer negotiated the ‘reasonable trade deal’ in the first place.
For me, Trump please close the door carefully behind you!
Normal service will resume when he goes!
So, it's Starmer's behaviour that is at fault, not Trump's?
Can't agree with that.
I am with you on that Wyllow, say NO to Palantir.
AS far as I am aware, no trade deal has yet been signed into law in the UK or in the vast majority of countries that Trump has dumped tariffs on. There are frameworks for a deal that are being negotiated but not actual deals. Trump thinks that a framework is an actual deal but it is not. Also, Trump has no problem threatening countries economically for any reason that crosses his empty mind. His word is worth nothing. If he wasn’t threatening the UK over the war, he’d find some other assinine excuse.
For me, Trump please close the door carefully behind you! Normal service will resume when he goes!
I wonder if it will though? Smileless2012 made a good observation earlier in the thread; it will take a very long time, and an exceptionally diplomatic POTUS, for the USA to repair the global damage Trump has caused during his tenure.
I agree Cardamom. Trump has been like a tsunami destroying as he goes. It will take a long time to rebuild after all the harm he has done.
Cardamom
^For me, Trump please close the door carefully behind you! Normal service will resume when he goes!^
I wonder if it will though? Smileless2012 made a good observation earlier in the thread; it will take a very long time, and an exceptionally diplomatic POTUS, for the USA to repair the global damage Trump has caused during his tenure.
I agree that western allies of the US will not trust the US again for a significant time, the damage done to relations with any future POTUS will need very careful handling. Once bitten twice shy.
History will record him as the man who brought the US down from respect, from allies and friendships., to an abject and complex place, for even if Trump goes, MAGA has not, and the internal problems will be off the scale.
They are building massive immigrant internment camps through the country, and the population gradually starved, for the poor, of medical support.
There are strong waves and movements against all that, a longing to return to values of social cohesion, but this opposition has yet to properly coalesce. Imround gives us many examples of protest and decency at work, but it needs to be viable alternative.
I fear that the situation created by trump in the USA and indeed the wider world is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. It will take a very special type of POTUS to bring the USA back to some semblance of normality and respect.
That dementia diagnosis is just around the corner.........
Lightning tantrums, rambling speeches going in all directions, repeating himself, thinking he's Jesus Christ, publicly uttering vulgar and expletive language, demolishing half the White House to build a ballroom-cum-nuclear bunker, his obsession with constantly playing an imaginary concertina when addressing his terrified sycophants, falling asleep in meetings, etc.
And that's probably only a snapshot!
It’s all terribly sad and utterly pointless! The fool and his followers have no idea what they’ve done nor what to do.
I am reading Looking for Trouble by Virginia Cowles - p 194 … what a terrible curse these Germans are. Europe will never be happy until she gets rid of them. But who will do the job? That is the trouble. No one wants to take it on .
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Fallingstar
At least in other news the King will be spared the public humiliation in the Oval Office, it has been reported that the King will meet with Trump privately but there will be after dinner speeches. Those should prove interesting 🤨
At least Charles won’t be told he doesn’t hold any cards then😂
I wonder who 'suggested' they meet privately.
Let's hope Charles dresses appropriately for the occasion Oreo and Trump doesn't wear his MAGA cap.
Good plan - I think Charles should wear his Coronation robe, the most ostentatious crown in the Royal vaults and the Sovereign’s sceptre. That will impress.
Casdon
Good plan - I think Charles should wear his Coronation robe, the most ostentatious crown in the Royal vaults and the Sovereign’s sceptre. That will impress.
Oh yes please, let the King wear all his Royal regalia and the Queen, and would be good if they had an entourage of royal livery men with trumpets who could sound a fanfare every time it looks like Trump is opening his gob.
Fallingstar
Casdon
Good plan - I think Charles should wear his Coronation robe, the most ostentatious crown in the Royal vaults and the Sovereign’s sceptre. That will impress.
Oh yes please, let the King wear all his Royal regalia and the Queen, and would be good if they had an entourage of royal livery men with trumpets who could sound a fanfare every time it looks like Trump is opening his gob.
I love this image! 😂😂😂
Especially the trumpets, he might think they’re a group named after him!
Great image Fallingstar; if only.
It’s just going from bad to worse 😩
Smileless2012
Great image Fallingstar; if only.
Love it!!
One thing is for definite - Trump has tarnished the office of President of the United States for good.
Whoever takes up the reins after he's gone will have the monumental task of restoring any credibility.
Richard Nixon was bad enough - and criminal enough as it turned out - but he never came within a fraction of being anything like Trump.
Nixon did his lying with dignity. Not a word to be used to describe Trump. Ever.
mae13
One thing is for definite - Trump has tarnished the office of President of the United States for good.
Whoever takes up the reins after he's gone will have the monumental task of restoring any credibility.
Richard Nixon was bad enough - and criminal enough as it turned out - but he never came within a fraction of being anything like Trump.
Nixon did his lying with dignity. Not a word to be used to describe Trump. Ever.
I agree.
Trump makes past presidents, no matter how bad, look far more palatable. Even Dubya, who at least went through the motions of seeking a yay or nay from allies before waging an illegal war against Iraq.
Indeed have never heard anyone speak like Trump or seen anyone act like him, he beggars description. Certainly a man like him should at all costs have been kept away from other people let alone being in public office.
And you’re right, it will be a long time, if ever, that western allies will view the US in the same way, the issue being that if this has happened once it could happen again, because Trump will go but his voters will still be there.
Once again today’s Turbulent Times offers the opposite view. Trump’s blockade of Hormuz is working. Iran’s economy is suffering and the EU and UK have taken entirely the wrong position. An interesting read.
The only thing I agree with Starmer so far is the way he has handled Trump, it's not just us he's fallen out with, the list of countries he's upset grows, we can't be backmailed into a war g to keep a Trade Deal. Blackmaiker just keep on with their demands and until he is admitted to a secure unit his denands will grow..The biggest mistake he made was not just going into a war he didn't know how to get out of but insulting Christians and Pope Leo. I think his days are numbered but who could be trusted, certainly not Vance. These devout followers have shown themselves as they are.
Yes men to Trump before their beliefs.
Once this has passed as it will, our relationship with America can be built back up. It just takes the right person.
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