Is it right to spend $105 billion on Artemis Space project?

Redrobin51

I've never been in agreement with any space travel as we've already messed up our own world why mess up another. The cost of these space programmes are obscene especially as there is so much poverty in the world.

What are you having for lunch on Easter Sunday, Redrobin?
Roast potatoes?

CAT scans and MRI were enabled indirectly by space-age advances in computing and engineering. The NASA Apollo project gave a massuve impetus and large scale investment investment in: computing, electronics and materials science.
Those advances spilled over into medicine. They led to sophisticated image processing techniques and better superconducting magnets, Without Apollo those advances might have been slower or never happened.

They are looking for an additional 1.5 trillion dollars for the Iranian war effort now, so the expenditure on Artemis is small fry in comparison. I don’t have a strong feeling about it, I just wonder what they will learn as a result that is not already known. .

Whitewavemark2

I can remembered being glued to the television the first time around, but this time for me, it is just a news headline.

Just wish we would sort our crap out on this world.

Me too.
It was just a unifying thing, that first space mission, although it was the USA's project it did feel as if it was an achievement by the human race.
This time it's just another headline although I do root for them to complete the mission successfully & get back safely.

Split down the cost is estimated at $4 billion per launch I have no idea how many are planned over how many years. I guess they can afford it US government spending is $6,000 Billion per year the US probably thinks it's worth it as a vanity project.

Redrobin51

I've never been in agreement with any space travel as we've already messed up our own world why mess up another. The cost of these space programmes are obscene especially as there is so much poverty in the world.

I expect some people felt like this when Columbus set out for???? -well he wasn't very sure - , not to mention Drake, Raleigh, Captain Cook, Amundsen and so on

I think progress is always going to have some cost to it. If we had never progressed we would still be savages. There’d be no beauty or art in our lives, we’d just live a short and brutal lifespan.

I've never been in agreement with any space travel as we've already messed up our own world why mess up another. The cost of these space programmes are obscene especially as there is so much poverty in the world.

MaizieD

MayBee70

I think the planet and it’s inhabitants, flora and fauna would be better off if we still lived in caves because we are the only things on it actively destroying it, ourselves and our fellow creatures .

Yet, among us there is sufficient intelligence and ingenuity to be able to work out ways that would enable people to live sustainably without destroying the planet.

Too me, the the thing that is stopping it is the deification of wealth, which means that it is pursued by exploiting the planet's resources to achieve vast amounts of it. Wealth that will be meaningless once the conditions which sustain human life have been irrevocably destroyed.

But that’s just about mitigating the damage that we have caused/are causing eg introducing cats to Tasmania, rabbits to Australia, killing off or removing keystone species, planting non indigenous trees and plants. Nothing else on the planet does that .

BlessedArt

What’s immoral is spending $93 billion in a month on steaks, lobster, crabs so that the defense budget doesn’t get cut from all the waste, like Pete Hegseth—the drunkard woman beater waging war on civilians in Iran.

What’s immoral is bombing schools and praying publicly in a taxpayer funded service about inflicting “overwhelming violence” on those who disagree with you.

What’s immoral is spending $200 million on a vanity campaign with a cosmetic-surgery laden face plastered all over every airport like Kristi Noem did.

What’s immoral is cutting healthcare funding by hundreds of billions to poor people in states that did not vote for you, like Trump and Repukes did.

What’s immoral is cutting healthcare research grants and funding to entities that focus on closing healthcare gaps that disproportionately and negatively affect minorities, like Trump and Repukes.

What’s immoral is attacking education institutes that dare to admit women and minorities deserving of their places there, like Trump and Repukes.

What’s immoral is being government officials who cluster stock sales based on inside knowledge of mergers pending regulatory approval, like Trump’s cabinet did/does.

What’s immoral is doubling your wealth strictly due to your ties as a government official, Like Trump.

What’s immoral is spending $400 million on a ballroom while your people are struggling with day to day cost.

A bit silly to focus on one headline and ignore the rest of the putridly immoral behaviour of this right-winged regime. The list I listed up top barely scratch the surface.

100%

He said last night in his "speech" that the US can't take care of Medicare, Medicaid, housing and food help because of war.

As a US taxpayer, do I prefer not to spend money on this? Sure.

But does it bother me? Not as much as spending trillions of dollars on a war that possibly upends the global economy.

This trip was likely planned long before he was inaugurated. It takes a long time to train astronauts. I still believe in science and this is science that can hopefully help future generations since we have ruined this planet.

I also saw this trip is making some history. There is a former Girl Scout on it, which is near and dear to my heart. And I believe the first black man to leave Earth's orbit?

MollyNew

Jaxjacky

MollyNew

How long before the Kennedy Space Center is renamed the Trump/Musk Golden Space Center?

I'm using the USA spelling of Center, by the way

As of last December Trump-Kennedy Center.

I'm referring to the Space Center in Florida.

He has already renamed the Kennedy Arts Center in Washington after himself.

😲

The nerve of the man.

tanith

I agree the money could be better spent elsewhere but I also wish the crew a safe journey and return home to earth to their families without mishap.

Indeed.
I know that the money could immediately be spent better elsewhere but who knows what spin-offs and benefits will arise for the future?
Sorry , full disclosure, I am thrilled to bits with all of it, stayed up to watch the launch and will follow it until , hopefully, they return safely.
What brave, brave people they are.
The only way you'd get me into a rocket would be with heavy chains and a taser.
God speed Artemis 11.

Jaxjacky

MollyNew

How long before the Kennedy Space Center is renamed the Trump/Musk Golden Space Center?

I'm using the USA spelling of Center, by the way

As of last December Trump-Kennedy Center.

I'm referring to the Space Center in Florida.

He has already renamed the Kennedy Arts Center in Washington after himself.

Allsorts

It's natural to push boundries and reach seemingly impossible challenges. It is an awful lot of money though when you think of all the people in USA without homes and sleeping in cars etc. There is a lot of poverty there.

Indeed the staggering poverty and homelessness is unbelievable for a so-called developed nation. I once visited a town in North Carolina that resembled the barrios of Brazil. For every NYC and LA there are multiple Plymouth, North Carolinas. Not a pretty place to see in many areas.

MollyNew

How long before the Kennedy Space Center is renamed the Trump/Musk Golden Space Center?

I'm using the USA spelling of Center, by the way

As of last December Trump-Kennedy Center.

What’s immoral is spending $93 billion in a month on steaks, lobster, crabs so that the defense budget doesn’t get cut from all the waste, like Pete Hegseth—the drunkard woman beater waging war on civilians in Iran.

What’s immoral is bombing schools and praying publicly in a taxpayer funded service about inflicting “overwhelming violence” on those who disagree with you.

What’s immoral is spending $200 million on a vanity campaign with a cosmetic-surgery laden face plastered all over every airport like Kristi Noem did.

What’s immoral is cutting healthcare funding by hundreds of billions to poor people in states that did not vote for you, like Trump and Repukes did.

What’s immoral is cutting healthcare research grants and funding to entities that focus on closing healthcare gaps that disproportionately and negatively affect minorities, like Trump and Repukes.

What’s immoral is attacking education institutes that dare to admit women and minorities deserving of their places there, like Trump and Repukes.

What’s immoral is being government officials who cluster stock sales based on inside knowledge of mergers pending regulatory approval, like Trump’s cabinet did/does.

What’s immoral is doubling your wealth strictly due to your ties as a government official, Like Trump.

What’s immoral is spending $400 million on a ballroom while your people are struggling with day to day cost.

A bit silly to focus on one headline and ignore the rest of the putridly immoral behaviour of this right-winged regime. The list I listed up top barely scratch the surface.

AGAA4

As man has made such a mess of our own planet I don't think it's a good idea to start ruining other parts of space.
The huge amounts spent on it could be used to try to sort out the damage done to our earth.

but the cures for the world's ill may come from the research done for the space probe. No space research, no space probe no solutions to other problems.

Yes, I think it's worth it for the Technology advancement.
As an example the simple Cardiac Telemetry thats use in Hospitals came from the space program years ago.
I'm sure the world will gain from this.

How long before the Kennedy Space Center is renamed the Trump/Musk Golden Space Center?

I'm using the USA spelling of Center, by the way

How long ago was this project planned and started and under which President?

MayBee70

I think the planet and it’s inhabitants, flora and fauna would be better off if we still lived in caves because we are the only things on it actively destroying it, ourselves and our fellow creatures .

I agree.

MayBee70

I think the planet and it’s inhabitants, flora and fauna would be better off if we still lived in caves because we are the only things on it actively destroying it, ourselves and our fellow creatures .

Yet, among us there is sufficient intelligence and ingenuity to be able to work out ways that would enable people to live sustainably without destroying the planet.

Too me, the the thing that is stopping it is the deification of wealth, which means that it is pursued by exploiting the planet's resources to achieve vast amounts of it. Wealth that will be meaningless once the conditions which sustain human life have been irrevocably destroyed.

I think the planet and it’s inhabitants, flora and fauna would be better off if we still lived in caves because we are the only things on it actively destroying it, ourselves and our fellow creatures .

SueDonim

I’ve just watched the launch and it fills me with awe that mankind can create such a machine. I’ve always been fascinated by space travel, it never fails to astound me, though I have no desire to visit space myself.

I think that if humanity never took risks and chances, we’d all still be living in caves. I feel money could be found for both missions such as this and to solve problems back on earth, if there was the political will.

I agree

I agree with many above: money could be better spent, but I don't think even for a moment that it ever would be.

Like it or not, I think it's a part of human nature to explore and expand. Without that, we would all still be living as wild animals with little more than basic shelter at best. Definitely better for our planet, but not a lot else going for it.