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I do think from my experience however, that many older people have entrenched views as a result I suspect of limited experience of any real social contact with people other than their own social circle, you can hear it on this forum.

Not all of us! 🙂

What amuses me is when a poster speaks loftily of old people who have entrenched and outdated views and so on while taking it as granted that posters will see how very modern and cosmopolitan they are.😄

Oreo

Go out one Friday or Saturday night into the city centre, anytime from 11 to 2a.m.
Large groups of young people 17 to late 20’s mainly and many staggering about and shouting and even fighting, including the girls.Once the clubs and pubs are out you’ll see a very different picture from your own grandchildren.
I see this regularly when I return home from a work shift as I walk or cycle.

Look at the stats. Young people drink less alcohol than their predecessors.

Not sure Whitewavemark2 that you go beyond your own social circle if you don’t realise that many young people drink a lot.

I'm not sure if I know any actual Ghurkas although our neighbour is from Nepal.
Must ask her.

What they do, since booze is very expensive is to share a bottle of vodka and other spirits before they go out, then go out and drink beers and lager. Get legless and stagger about in the street often looking for trouble.My town which is really city size now, has ‘angels’ who try and make sure that girls and young women have bottled water and taxi fare to get home.

Allira

I'm not sure if I know any actual Ghurkas although our neighbour is from Nepal.
Must ask her.

They (her father) lives in Kent so I guess he must be stationed there?

Basgetti

Oreo

Go out one Friday or Saturday night into the city centre, anytime from 11 to 2a.m.
Large groups of young people 17 to late 20’s mainly and many staggering about and shouting and even fighting, including the girls.Once the clubs and pubs are out you’ll see a very different picture from your own grandchildren.
I see this regularly when I return home from a work shift as I walk or cycle.

Look at the stats. Young people drink less alcohol than their predecessors.

They’re not all sat at home reading a book and sipping an orange juice you know!😄

Whitewavemark2

Allira

I'm not sure if I know any actual Ghurkas although our neighbour is from Nepal.
Must ask her.

They (her father) lives in Kent so I guess he must be stationed there?

No, not Kent 🙂

We do have a Ghurka restaurant not far away.

theconversation.com/the-rise-of-sober-curiosity-why-gen-zers-are-reducing-their-alcohol-consumption-243775
Younger people drink less alcohol than previous generations. That’s not to say there aren’t some who drink heavily, just significantly less of them than before.

Oreo

Not sure Whitewavemark2 that you go beyond your own social circle if you don’t realise that many young people drink a lot.

It seems that my grandchildren are more normal than you suggest.

I have had a look at some research and these are a few findings

39% of 18- 30 year old drink no alcohol
46% choose low alcohol.
From my experience if alcohol is consumed, they only tend to do so with a meal, and then only a glass or two.

Oh Whitewavemark2 😁
Only a glass with a meal. Haha.
When asked about alcohol consumption people lie shock horror.

Do any of you alcohol deniers ever go about late at night in city centres?
They may drink less during the week, it costs to drink but come Friday and Saturday it’s a different story.Pubs, bars and clubs are packed out.

When I say “my experience” I am talking about actual observation when having a meal with young people. Most drink non-alcoholic drink. Those that do drink have usually 1 glass and rarely 2.

They have no one to impress.

They’re having a meal with Grandma so of course they wouldn’t be drinking as they would for a night out with friends.

Oreo

Do any of you alcohol deniers ever go about late at night in city centres?
They may drink less during the week, it costs to drink but come Friday and Saturday it’s a different story.Pubs, bars and clubs are packed out.

I assume that they are the rest that do drink, but that is by no means certain. You simply can’t make that assumption, just because someone is sat in one of these venues.

But in any case don’t extrapolate from that meal with DGC that the young people today in general don’t drink much, they really do but save it up for the weekend.

Oreo

They’re having a meal with Grandma so of course they wouldn’t be drinking as they would for a night out with friends.

Oh don’t be silly. My grandchildren don’t lie neither do they think that they have anything to prove to their grandparents.

What a jaundiced view you have of life.

Oreo

But in any case don’t extrapolate from that meal with DGC that the young people today in general don’t drink much, they really do but save it up for the weekend.

And the research findings?

Yes, I walk through Cardiff city centre if I’ve been out in the evening. There’s a rowdy element, but I don’t tar all younger people with the same brush because of that, when the evidence that drinking less on average is readily available- and when it’s always been the same in city centres on Friday and Saturday nights. I’d imagine a lot of us were there too in our younger days.

Didn’t you read my earlier posts on what I see very late on as I walk or cycle home from a work shift? Groups of drunk young men and women, often staggering around and shouting and looking for trouble quite frequently.There’s usually a police van there ready for anything kicking off.Sometimes it’s good natured but often not.

Casdon

Yes, I walk through Cardiff city centre if I’ve been out in the evening. There’s a rowdy element, but I don’t tar all younger people with the same brush because of that, when the evidence that drinking less on average is readily available- and when it’s always been the same in city centres on Friday and Saturday nights. I’d imagine a lot of us were there too in our younger days.

Not me Casdon I was at home with bedtime cocoa and a copy of Crime And Punishment to hand.😇

Whitewavemark2

Oreo

They’re having a meal with Grandma so of course they wouldn’t be drinking as they would for a night out with friends.

Oh don’t be silly. My grandchildren don’t lie neither do they think that they have anything to prove to their grandparents.

What a jaundiced view you have of life.

A realist view of life, not a rose tinted glasses one.

This all came about because I said that younger people can be racist when drunk.Then came denials that young people drink hardly anything and so on.Blatantly untrue as anyone who regularly has to be in town and city centres very late at night will know.
I have witnessed two very nasty examples of racism aimed at Asian young men who barely got away from a group and another at two black girls.Am sure it wouldn’t have happened if it hadn’t been for the drink.

And before anyone thinks the drunks in question are all neanderthals, a lot of them are university students.The students keep many bars here going.