Will you be watching the results?

Whitewavemark2

Regarding the vote for non-English speakers - are voting papers only printed in English?

If those non- English speakers are entitled to a vote, then it makes sense for someone to help them with the voting paper, it could be a polling station official?

Why would they not speak English though - given they live in England?

Even if they didn't speak it fluently - they would know the names of the candidates and the parties and recognise them. So they just search their memory for 5 seconds and think "Yep...that's the candidate I decided and the party they are standing under". They would literally only have to have a few words of understanding of English and they would recognise the candidate they meant to vote for. So why would someone "need to help them"? Huh.........

From DAR's post

The companion must complete a declaration form before assisting.

So there must be a record of those incidences where a voter was accompanied into the voting booth, and the number of assisted votes will be known by the number of forms collected.

I'm a bit apprehensive about anybody who doesn't speak or understand enough English to be able to cast their vote independently. How on earth do you decide who to vote for if you can't read or listen to their election campaign?

That's what "family voting" means in this context paddyann54.

Add that I'm sure polling station officials have rules about not accompanying someone to a polling booth. It would be more than their job was worth to break those rules.

I'm a bit apprehensive about anybody who doesn't speak or understand enough English to be able to cast their vote independently. How on earth do you decide who to vote for if you can't read or listen to their election campaign?

An interpreter? Someone in the family who does speak English. There is space for that in the regulations DAR posted.

CariadAgain

Add that I'm sure polling station officials have rules about not accompanying someone to a polling booth. It would be more than their job was worth to break those rules.

Do you never read anything that has been posted since you last commented?

DAR posted the relevant regulations not so long ago.

MaizieD

^I'm a bit apprehensive about anybody who doesn't speak or understand enough English to be able to cast their vote independently. How on earth do you decide who to vote for if you can't read or listen to their election campaign?^

An interpreter? Someone in the family who does speak English. There is space for that in the regulations DAR posted.

So as I said there will be declaration forms filled in by everyone who accompanied someone in the voting booth. It must surely be possible for those numbers of forms to be published, just like spoiled ballot numbers are published?

CariadAgain

GrannyGravy13

Sorry premature posting. I watched a documentary on the ravages of Ketamin on the very young.

They are presenting to A & E with bladder issues and incontinence late teens early twenties, which according to the medical professionals is irreversible.

I've seen some stuff re the effect on people of some of these drugs - including that one.

I've never taken a recreational drug in my life - and it wasnt because I didnt have the chance. I've usually known exactly where I could get some if I wanted for quite some time back in my home city. Now I've moved = same again and I know exactly where I could get some.

But I analysed whether it was worth trying anything and that was that = no thanks then.

But a lot of others will take them if they are offered - whether it's young people taking them because all their mates do or older people taking cocaine at middle class dinner parties.

Either way - it's a burden on our NHS and the rest of us in all sorts of ways and that burden doesn't stop when they stop. I could go up to various people where I am now and ask them "Open your mouth" and I can see exactly who has wrecked their teeth for life (or a good dentist appointment or three). That's just the minor level health problems - but I've certainly read of the effect of ketamin on some younger people and it sounded pretty darn drastic to me.

It ain't just health concerns too - it's where do these drug-takers get the money they spend on these drugs and it will often not be from their wages...

Why on earth would anyone want to legalise these drugs is beyond me - as I really can't see any advantage to doing so (other than for the users and the pushers themselves). But I can certainly see the disadvantages for all of us.

Absolutely this! A country where zombie induced individuals stumble around ravaged by the effects of drugs, not to mention psychotic episodes.

Which would be great because Members have also called to defund the police so that bodes well for drug fuelled crime related incidents

Galaxy's comments re prostitution. I believe such a proposal was trialled in a suburb of Leeds. From what I read, just awful for the residents and the trafficked women. Apart from glamourised high class call girls, thin on the ground I imagine, do women ever willingly choose this life???? Mass exploitation of the worst kind.

Quit Nato

And no I'm not a prospective Reform voter. Greens would be the last party I'd vote for and certainly nothing like the party my late mother occasionally voted for.

David49

Observers did see 12% of voters take part in family voting we don't know if that affected the result, probably not this time but a close result could be affected so I think should be banned.

Andy Burnham probably would have held the seat for Labour - another own goal for Starmer.

Serves him right for acting like a petulant child and taking his toys home. Burnham may well have held the seat for Labour.

TheHappyGardener

In my opinion, the Green Party in any sort of power in this country is a far more calamitous threat for our future than Reform. My husband, who is very wise, told me very early this morning before I’d seen or read anything about the win in Gorton, that’ll be the Muslim voters keeping Reform out. Makes complete sense now ….

He's right. After reading the Green Party leader's views I dread Polanski getting into No 10 as much as Farage.

Your posts give me some level of hope terribull.

It's a by-election and people vote differently. I take comfort from the fact that Reform are not as popular as some thought they were and people will vote tactically to keep them out. We have a long time until the next GE and much can change in that time. Labour have a big enough majority to lose this seat, it would have been worse to have allowed Burnham to stand and then perhaps to have lost the seat and a mayoral election.

foxie48

It's a by-election and people vote differently. I take comfort from the fact that Reform are not as popular as some thought they were and people will vote tactically to keep them out. We have a long time until the next GE and much can change in that time. Labour have a big enough majority to lose this seat, it would have been worse to have allowed Burnham to stand and then perhaps to have lost the seat and a mayoral election.

I think he might have lost to her. I was so worried that a split vote was going to let Reform in but, not having seen or heard the Green candidate till this morning realised that she is a force of nature and they ran a brilliant campaign. Having said that I kept thinking how much she reminded me of Jo Cox .

www.drugs.ie/news/article/from_the_uk_hard_drugs_should_be_legal_says_top_english_police_officer

Sarnia

TheHappyGardener

In my opinion, the Green Party in any sort of power in this country is a far more calamitous threat for our future than Reform. My husband, who is very wise, told me very early this morning before I’d seen or read anything about the win in Gorton, that’ll be the Muslim voters keeping Reform out. Makes complete sense now ….

He's right. After reading the Green Party leader's views I dread Polanski getting into No 10 as much as Farage.

Rather Farage than the breast whisperer, then our country would be lost completely.

TerryBull
I’ve only known one woman who chose that life.
She was a tenant of our for 6 years. She kept the flat in immaculate condition.
She was in her 30s and was an ex nurse.
At the time the flat became empty we had decided to come back to live in the uk so we stayed there until we decided what we wanted to do.
We often pondered if walls could talk.

The young woman who won for the Greens looked like the best and most sincere candidate by a country mile. Good for her. I would have voted for her.

Freya5

Sarnia

TheHappyGardener

In my opinion, the Green Party in any sort of power in this country is a far more calamitous threat for our future than Reform. My husband, who is very wise, told me very early this morning before I’d seen or read anything about the win in Gorton, that’ll be the Muslim voters keeping Reform out. Makes complete sense now ….

He's right. After reading the Green Party leader's views I dread Polanski getting into No 10 as much as Farage.

Rather Farage than the breast whisperer, then our country would be lost completely.

Who is the breast whisperer??? All that Google is saying is that this is a night time bra. We're not reduced to that surely. Do tell!

No, but first thing this morning was ecstatic that Reform came second, not first, and laughed to see the Tories lose their deposit.

Bad, sad day for Labour and LibDems though.

foxie48

It's a by-election and people vote differently. I take comfort from the fact that Reform are not as popular as some thought they were and people will vote tactically to keep them out. We have a long time until the next GE and much can change in that time. Labour have a big enough majority to lose this seat, it would have been worse to have allowed Burnham to stand and then perhaps to have lost the seat and a mayoral election.

I agree.

DaisyAnneReturns

That's what "family voting" means in this context paddyann54.

Sorry thst should have said "That's not what "family voting" means in this context paddyann54."

Sarnia

Freya5

Sarnia

TheHappyGardener

In my opinion, the Green Party in any sort of power in this country is a far more calamitous threat for our future than Reform. My husband, who is very wise, told me very early this morning before I’d seen or read anything about the win in Gorton, that’ll be the Muslim voters keeping Reform out. Makes complete sense now ….

He's right. After reading the Green Party leader's views I dread Polanski getting into No 10 as much as Farage.

Rather Farage than the breast whisperer, then our country would be lost completely.

Who is the breast whisperer??? All that Google is saying is that this is a night time bra. We're not reduced to that surely. Do tell!

Zack Polanski, leader of the Green party in the past charged women saying as a hypnotherapist he could get their minds to grow their breasts larger. He has apologised but when someone shows you who they are believe them the first time (Maya Angelou), once a grifter always a grifter.

Sorry, but I can never ever agree that The Greens in power would be worse than Reform!

They actually gave a stonking Party Political Broadcast on TV a week ago, very fair and just policies and I’m afraid I don’t buy into “Islamophobia”

I know and worked with many Muslims, make and female, they were all, without exception, very open, honest and hard working people. At no point did they talk about their beliefs, unless invited to do so and many brought in fabulous home cooked food for us for lunches.

Oh if only I could be hypnotised to become slimmer!

petra

TerryBull
I’ve only known one woman who chose that life.
She was a tenant of our for 6 years. She kept the flat in immaculate condition.
She was in her 30s and was an ex nurse.
At the time the flat became empty we had decided to come back to live in the uk so we stayed there until we decided what we wanted to do.
We often pondered if walls could talk.

I certainly wouldn't judge that woman or anyone else in her situation. As long as there isn't a man in the background pulling the strings, which is so often the case. I perceive many women who end up as prostitutes have little control over their lives, they're just a commodity to earn money for pimps. Drugged, abused with very wretched lives. What the Greens propose could possibly make things worse for them.