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Future of the Monarchy

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Whitewavemark2 Fri 20-Feb-26 12:14:59

I’ve read and listened to a lot of comment and questions concerning the future existence of the monarchy.

Every commentator believes that this is the most serious issue that the monarchy has faced in recent history, and that is existence may well be under threat - not immediately but as information trickles out over the next few months and years.

I do think that our demographic on GN and attitude towards the monarchy is not typical - and looking at the younger generation I suspect the monarchy has a lot more to worry about, because our values of fairness, meritocracy etc simply doesn’t stand up in a monarchical political system.

I think it will be far worse if justice is not seen to be done regarding Windsor, and I will not be at all surprised if the next generation will sees an end to the monarchy, and certainly young George will never be king.

Allira Sat 21-Feb-26 22:13:57

StoneofDestiny

Indigo8
I never thought I would feel this way about Andrew but the photograph of him in the back of the car that is doing the rounds made me feel sorry for him

I’ve no sympathy for him or his family who
have known what was going on for years. My only question was how many people after getting questioned by the police get a 2 vehicle escort home? Most of the public would have to call a taxi or get a bus!

I don't think you understand.

The police escort was probably to avoid public disturbance, a breach of the peace or other reasons which we do not know.

StoneofDestiny Sat 21-Feb-26 22:14:01

Who are the brother and sisters, uncles, aunts etc who are paid to attend functions?

Allowances, wardrobe, transport allowance paid to them with the best seats in the house. Hardly a hardship to attend is it? And this ‘justifies’ the title ‘working royal’ that comes with large allowances, housing and staff.

Anniebach Sat 21-Feb-26 22:14:06

Quote Allira Sat 21-Feb-26 22:03:52
Anniebach
His comeuppance for ?

Quote Allira Sat 21-Feb-26 22:03:52
Anniebach
His comeuppance for ?

Suspicion of misconduct in a public office.

No charges ?

Allira Sat 21-Feb-26 22:15:45

Anniebach

Quote Allira Sat 21-Feb-26 22:03:52
Anniebach
His comeuppance for ?

Quote Allira Sat 21-Feb-26 22:03:52
Anniebach
His comeuppance for ?

Suspicion of misconduct in a public office.

No charges ?

No. But suspicion and embarrassment, and an escort home to avoid public disturbance, which Stone of Destiny seems unable to understand.

Tuliptree Sat 21-Feb-26 22:16:10

fancythat

I suspect, could be wrong, that the people who like the monarchy still do, and those that dont, dont.

I presume[could be wrong] that it will continue.

I suspect you’re absolutely right. Confirmation bias is a wonderful thing. In a way that makes these threads either a waste of time or just a useful vehicle for venting.

Anniebach Sat 21-Feb-26 22:19:01

Quote StoneofDestiny Sat 21-Feb-26 22:14:01
Who are the brother and sisters, uncles, aunts etc who are paid to attend functions?

Allowances, wardrobe, transport allowance paid to them with the best seats in the house. Hardly a hardship to attend is it? And this ‘justifies’ the title ‘working royal’ that comes with large allowances, housing and staff.

You are mistaken or exaggerating

Allira Sat 21-Feb-26 22:21:39

Tuliptree

fancythat

I suspect, could be wrong, that the people who like the monarchy still do, and those that dont, dont.

I presume[could be wrong] that it will continue.

I suspect you’re absolutely right. Confirmation bias is a wonderful thing. In a way that makes these threads either a waste of time or just a useful vehicle for venting.

I'm ambivalent. It's allowed.

If they want to give it up, I'm happy, but I doubt we'd notice much in the way of financial savings.

I think the future generations might be relieved.

StoneofDestiny Sat 21-Feb-26 22:21:57

I don't think you understand

The police escort was probably to avoid public disturbance, a breach of the peace or other reasons which we do not know

Thank you - I fully understand 🙄

Allira Sat 21-Feb-26 22:25:11

Didn't seem so so hence the explanation.

Please ignore if you know more about the procedure after being questioned by the police than me.

SORES Sat 21-Feb-26 22:26:11

Indigo8

I never thought I would feel this way about Andrew but the photograph of him in the back of the car that is doing the rounds made me feel sorry for him. He looks so shocked and defeated like a cornered animal.

Don't get me wrong, I am still utterly disgusted by the way he has behaved and lied but I can't help but feel a little pang of sympathy.

I whole heartedly agree, Indigo8 - it looked to me as though he had fallen backwards. The redeye left in was mischievous.

This photographer syndicated his photograph, ensuring
that it was on the front page of all newspapers.

I don‘t feel sorry for Andrew, but this picture seemed
way below the belt and not sporting.

“You don’t kick a man when he’s down”

StoneofDestiny Sat 21-Feb-26 22:26:54

You are mistaken or exaggerating

I’m neither of these things. I’d hazard a guess I’m better informed than you are.

As I say - let us have full access by the public to all these things and there will be no doubt. The secrecy surrounding royal finance and the blurred lines between what is public or private property should not exist. Reduce the numbers down who access these unbelievable privileges and let those who remain actually work for it.

Allira Sat 21-Feb-26 22:29:41

He has not been charged as Anniebach said.

However, Anniebach, I think anyone who had been subjected to his arrogance over the years might well have felt a little satisfaction at seeing him chastened in that photograph.
Sorry, I do know no charges have been made.

Allira Sat 21-Feb-26 22:30:57

I’m neither of these things. I’d hazard a guess I’m better informed than you are.

Of course 😁

Anniebach Sat 21-Feb-26 22:54:18

Quote Allira Sat 21-Feb-26 22:29:41
He has not been charged as Anniebach said.

However, Anniebach, I think anyone who had been subjected to his arrogance over the years might well have felt a little satisfaction at seeing him chastened in that photograph
Sorry, I do know no charges have been made.

I am finding so much hatred for the man, sorry but.the photograph is brutal, I don’t like man or beast being humiliated and this man is certainly humiliated, more anger about him being part of the royal family and wealth.

I have doubts if we will never know the truth of the police investigation, if found innocent will there marches , “we want blood so give up blood” such hatred

Tuliptree Sat 21-Feb-26 22:59:39

Brutal photos in the press Annie? Well I never. Our press doing that? I’m shocked, shocked I tell you . Whatever next? For goodness sake.

Maremia Sat 21-Feb-26 23:00:53

Does this mean that the police investigation is now over?

Rosie51 Sat 21-Feb-26 23:03:23

I wouldn't think so Maremia but they can only hold a suspect for so long without charges. I expect they're still pouring over the mountains of paperwork etc.

Rosie51 Sat 21-Feb-26 23:04:25

Arresting someone of 'suspicion of' is not the same as being charged with an offence.

Tuliptree Sat 21-Feb-26 23:04:41

Maremia

Does this mean that the police investigation is now over?

No he’s been released ‘under investigation’ . They are still searching his properties.

Tuliptree Sat 21-Feb-26 23:05:49

Rosie51

Arresting someone of 'suspicion of' is not the same as being charged with an offence.

Does anyone on this thread still not understand this?

Rosie51 Sat 21-Feb-26 23:13:53

Tuliptree

Rosie51

Arresting someone of 'suspicion of' is not the same as being charged with an offence.

Does anyone on this thread still not understand this?

I don't know, you tell me. You seem to be the fountain of all knowledge.

*should have been 'on' not 'of' in my original post, surprised you didn't pick me up on that, missed a chance there.

Tuliptree Sat 21-Feb-26 23:15:28

I’ve been thinking about truly brutal press photos that have stayed with me over the years. One was Gordon Kaye ( ‘Allo ‘Allo) who was in hospital after a serious accident. Two scumbag reporters lied their way into his hospital room and took unauthorised photos of him which appeared on the front pages next day. And secondly the heartbreaking photo of Sarah and Gordon Brown in the back of a car being driven away from the hospital after the death of their baby daughter. None of us had the moral right to see either of their photos That’s brutal Annie

Tuliptree Sat 21-Feb-26 23:18:18

Well Rosie if people don’t know the difference then I’m not sure how helpful that is . And yes, I am extremely knowledgable about a whole range of issues - thanks for noticing.

Rosie51 Sat 21-Feb-26 23:30:09

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Anniebach Sat 21-Feb-26 23:36:10

Yes both photographs were brutal Tuliptree, for me the photograph of Andrew in police car was too,