Future of the Monarchy

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Maremia

Does this mean that the police investigation is now over?

Windsor has been released on bail, with certain restrictions on him to ensure risk is as low as possible. As he is, apparently, being treated exactly like all other people of interest to the police, he will st minimum have to report into the nearest police station periodically.

The investigation now begins and will in all probability take months and months. One thing I think we can be pretty certain about is that there will be no leaks.

I am not a great lover of the royal family but do think we need a head of state with no political alliance. Have those of you who are so vitriolic in your dislike of royalty ever wondered what it is like to be constantly on show, to display no preferences and having to keep your views to yourself? Yes they have money but what a life!

The only royal I have met is Princess Ann. She was down to earth, extremely well informed and with great charm. Her voice is not at all ‘posh’ and she is likeable. We do need such ambassadors.
It is strange but from Japan to Russia and Germany, the royals, their lifestyle, clothes and aura are greatly envied. This does bring many here as tourist, creating jobs and income. They have much private wealth which perhaps they should use staff and maintain their private residences. Whether this currently is the case I do not know,

Yes we would survive quite happily as a republic but without the shine and the newspapers would all fold with no royal gossip!

Rosie51

And there she goes again, that pathetic emoji.......

I'm confident about the areas of my knowledge I don't have to boast on an anonymous internet forum. I don't suffer from either false modesty or baseless boasting but you do you.

Oh dear - you are sailing a little bit close to the wind. Getting a bit personal Good night

Good night, sleep tight.

gin if all those other countries are so envious why aren't the public in those countries lobbying for a royal family of their own?
Answer: they aren’t , they know its all a load of nonsense , they just like to gawp and gossip

"I don't think you understand. The police escort was probably to avoid public disturbance, a breach of the peace or other reasons which we do not know"

Allira: 22.25 "Didn't seem so so hence the explanation. Please ignore if you know more about the procedure after being questioned by the police than me."

Maremia: 23.00 "Does this mean that the police investigation is now over?"

Rosie51: 23.03 "I wouldn't think so Maremia but they can only hold a suspect for so long without charges. I expect they're still pouring over the mountains of paperwork etc".

It's been reported in the press the investigation ( various strands) are ongoing. Whilst in custody, a higher rank officer in the station will review the detained person routinely periodically- once under 6 hrs, 6 hrs, 9 hrs etc. plus there will be cell checks periodically. Purpose- duty of care- plus to assess how the interview timescale is progressing as there is a 24 "clock" they want to beat.

To detain someone in police custody over 24 hours up to 36 hours (they are not yet found guilty and their freedom has been restricted), the offence must be indictable and it must be necessary to secure/preserve evidence and authorised by an inspector or higher rank. To extend detention after 36 hours a warrant from a Magistrates Court (ie a court hearing in a public setting to extend further to a maximum of 96 hours. Plus police need to ensure detained person DP, has rest of 8 hours ( to sleep) whilst in custody. Hence AMW arrested around 8 am and released more or less 12 hours later when coming up to rest period. No further detention extension sought at this stage.
Terrorism cases slightly different- can hold up to 14 gas without charge following special judicial authorisation. Mental Health Act powers also need to be taken into consideration.

Police are subject to PACE- Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 and must follow certain procedures on release. They must consider whether continued detention is necessary in context of risk management and welfare of the detainee- the overarching Principe being detention is the last resort and individuals should be released if grounds for detention no longer exist. they conduct a vulnerability assessment to consider mental health issues, physical illnesses , injuries risk of self harm, suicide etc. They must also consider safety of individual on release and risk of harm e.g. potential exploitation, victimisation ( in this case known presence of media). they must also consider safe transportation to get DP back home.

AMW, by the way he presented in the published release photo= shell shocked- required support and safe transportation home. He had access to drivers and staff and they were able to come and collect him- as I understand. He was arrested and arrived in a marked police car but did not wish for or require a police escort and left in an unmarked car.

Various decisions are made and formalised on release:
1) NFA- no further action.
2) Released under investigation, RUI,
3) Pre Charge Bail ( Conditional or Unconditional) and custody officer must consider any representations made by suspect or legal representative regarding bail conditions.

WWM2: 23.51 "Windsor has been released on bail"

Not as I understand it....he was RUI- therefore free to go about his business with no conditions applied.

A has had opportunity over the years to behave differently , to help the police /FBI. He has continually failed to do this. If he is being kicked whilst he’s down, then he’s the one who put himself in the gutter.

LemonJam, I read and learn thanks
WhiteWave, also thanks.

I still like SORES' explanation, for keeping the Royal Family. Was it on this Thread?

LemonJam

WWM2: 23.51 "Windsor has been released on bail"

Not as I understand it....he was RUI- therefore free to go about his business with no conditions applied.

Oh mixed information?

RUI is most likely I think.

Whitewavemark2

Maremia

Does this mean that the police investigation is now over?

Windsor has been released on bail, with certain restrictions on him to ensure risk is as low as possible. As he is, apparently, being treated exactly like all other people of interest to the police, he will st minimum have to report into the nearest police station periodically.

The investigation now begins and will in all probability take months and months. One thing I think we can be pretty certain about is that there will be no leaks.

He was not released on bail and does not have to report to a police station.

He was "released under investigation"

in other words the police investigation is not over.

mk-law.co.uk/what-happens-when-youre-ruid/

Rosie51

Well I once had a very astute teacher who said those that think they know it all usually know nothing of any worth. When you have to blow your own trumpet on an anonymous internet forum, it really is rather sad. I take real life accolades as far more valuable.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Yes, and a little modesty is always appreciated too.

Maremia

I still like SORES' explanation, for keeping the Royal Family. Was it on this Thread?

I don’t know but likely. It was thought provoking wasn’t it?

Maremia

I still like SORES' explanation, for keeping the Royal Family. Was it on this Thread?

Yes it was.

SORES Fri 20-Feb-26 13:04:37

an excellent explanation of the benefit of having a Constitutional Monarchy.

butterandjam

Whitewavemark2

Maremia

Does this mean that the police investigation is now over?

Windsor has been released on bail, with certain restrictions on him to ensure risk is as low as possible. As he is, apparently, being treated exactly like all other people of interest to the police, he will st minimum have to report into the nearest police station periodically.

The investigation now begins and will in all probability take months and months. One thing I think we can be pretty certain about is that there will be no leaks.

He was not released on bail and does not have to report to a police station.

He was "released under investigation"

in other words the police investigation is not over.

mk-law.co.uk/what-happens-when-youre-ruid/

Yes I based that information on a podcast produced by a senior policeman and criminal reporter on the day Windsor was arrested.

Indigo8

Indigo8

BBC - 2 November 2024 - documentary

"The royal family has received millions of pounds income in rent from the NHS, schools and the armed forces."

Look it up if you don't believe me.

I know of a charge nurse who is living in an HMO because the hospital where he works is in an area of high rents and property prices which does attract any wage weighting. He is struggling to save enough for the deposit on a small rented flat. The only alternative would be to live in a cheaper area miles away and add hours of travel to his, already long, working day or night.

The royals cream off millions of pounds in rent from the NHS every year while many senior, highly skilled employees work long hours for peanuts and are unable to live a decent life on their income.

Do you even know what an HMO is?

It's rented property shared by three or more unrelated adults. It's very common for single adults to flat =share or house-share with other single adults who like company, or the economy of sharing the council tax, heating bills and other expenses.

"HMO" says absolutely nothing negative about either the property or its occupants.

JaneJudge

I seem to be really angry about the Royal family. I just think they should self fund.

They have enough wealth without top ups from ordinary people

Do you actually know how much they cost the population of UK ?

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/royal-family-numbers-cost-tax-b1235820.html

510 million divided by 69 million (uk population)

your contribution is about 7 quid.

JaneJudge

theworriedwell

JaneJudge

are they single income households?

Was that for me?

Yes it was. Rent on a 3 bed house where I live is £2k and it isn't even posh.

Does a single person need a three bed house?

Three single teachers could share a 3 bed house and pay £740 rent each.

vegansrock

There would be nothing to stop Charles or William standing in an election for head of state should they wish to, at least we’d know then if they really wanted the job. Not sure why everyone imagines we’d get a President Trump- our system is nothing like that of the US.

Because if you elect a head of state, anybody can run.

Rich people from game shows , media celebrities. USA ended up with Reagan and Donald Trump.

In UK we've got rich/ambitious/popular celebs like Victoria Beckham and Alan Carr.

Indigo8

I never thought I would feel this way about Andrew but the photograph of him in the back of the car that is doing the rounds made me feel sorry for him. He looks so shocked and defeated like a cornered animal.

Don't get me wrong, I am still utterly disgusted by the way he has behaved and lied but I can't help but feel a little pang of sympathy.

compare it with the photo of him crouched on all fours over the small body of a girl.

fancythat

I suspect, could be wrong, that the people who like the monarchy still do, and those that dont, dont.

I presume[could be wrong] that it will continue.

On the other hand, we have seen examples of Monarchy who did their duty when called on, and gave their lives to the service of the country often at considerable cost to their private life and family.

I'm struggling to think of any equivalent from elected Presidents/ Leader who did so for longer than a couple of years.