I deplore Jim Ratcliffe's words. (owner of Man U)

Oh I know why immigrants go to London or other cities and towns Foxie48
If your expanding village is just about 100% white then it isn’t racism, it’s simply that they don’t like their village getting larger without the accompanying infrastructure such as dentists and good shops.

Each to their own. I think it’s horrible. Enjoy your trip 😃

I read an interesting article from The Guardian that shows net migration is falling and is actually going to be quite a problem.
www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2026/feb/14/uk-migration-negative-economy
The fall has been caused by the tougher thresholds the government has put in place for visas, the increased fees and conditions imposed on students etc.
Yes. It is net migration, but before anyone says that is because so many British people are leaving, the huge numbers leaving are mostly made up of those who have been caught by these rules and are now having to leave. It also gives the numbers of asylum seekers arriving by boat, much lower figure than the hysteria of some would have us believe.
In fact, the article is disturbing by highlighting some of the problems this almost negative migration figures is going to cause us in our economy and many of our services.

GrannyGravy13

Basgetti

There’s only one reason anyone moves to Monaco, god awful place.

Have visited Monaco frequently, and going back again this year, it is definitely not a god awful place

One of the other reasons (not just tax) it attracts the rich and famous is its illegal to photograph anyone without their permission, so no paparazzi snaps

It looks a very attractive place to me, there’s a lot of envy around.

We need to get the millions not working here back into jobs.

Fwiw our NHS dental practice is owned by two Hindu dentists and the GP practice also employs some GPs who are from ethnic minorities. When I had my last A&E admission at the nearest city, most of the staff there were from ethnic minorities, I've no idea how many are also UK citizens but some will be working on visas. One nurse who looked after me saw my address and mentioned he also worked at the nursing home which is very near to my home. People of whatever nationality or ethnicity have to be housed and have health care, they can't be expected to live in tents and go home if they are taken ill. Or is that what people want? I'd really like to understand what drives racism and why some feel it's OK to see others who are different in some way to them as inferior or in some way an enemy.

I simply don’t understand what you’re saying Foxie48 unless it’s that the villagers where you live won’t attend a dental practice run by Hindu dentists or won’t attend appointments by an non white GP.
I have no idea what your fellow villagers want, and tbh neither do you unless you’ve asked every one of them.

Most dental practices and GP surgeries everywhere have practitioners from other ethnicities, usually British from an Indian or Pakistani heritage family.

foxie48 we all know that there are people of differing ethnicities working in our NHS, they are here legally.

It is not racist to query the motives of those arriving by boat, some of whom have destroyed their papers.

It os not racist to query why in a small commuter belt villge like mine there are five Turkish Barber Shops all kitted out on floor to ceiling marble with designer towels and endless bling, which on most days are empty of clients.

It is not racist to query the two Vietnamese Nail Premises where none of the technicians speak English, are raised regularly and reopen a couple of weeks later.

Raided it raised 🤦‍♀️

Galaxy

I assume he thinks he has the same right as every other famous person who shares their views with us. Gary Lineker, Russel Davies, Terry Christian, and so on.

Do any of them actually live in the UK?

GrannyGravy13

foxie48 we all know that there are people of differing ethnicities working in our NHS, they are here legally.

It is not racist to query the motives of those arriving by boat, some of whom have destroyed their papers.

It os not racist to query why in a small commuter belt villge like mine there are five Turkish Barber Shops all kitted out on floor to ceiling marble with designer towels and endless bling, which on most days are empty of clients.

It is not racist to query the two Vietnamese Nail Premises where none of the technicians speak English, are raised regularly and reopen a couple of weeks later.

Speak to trading standards. Those places have been closed down where I live. Kos

Questioning potentially illegal shops is not racist and nowhere have I suggest that it is. I'm trying to understand why people hold racist views and in my community despite it being nearly all white except for a few professional people in the NHS and some people who have popular restaurants, there is a lot of racism and I have no doubt, rather a lot of people who will vote for Reform. Any ideas?

foxie48

Questioning potentially illegal shops is not racist and nowhere have I suggest that it is. I'm trying to understand why people hold racist views and in my community despite it being nearly all white except for a few professional people in the NHS and some people who have popular restaurants, there is a lot of racism and I have no doubt, rather a lot of people who will vote for Reform. Any ideas?

As none of us know where you live, and even if we did I find it highly unlikely that we would know the views of every single person who lives there.

I do wonder how you know that the residents in your area are racist?

Thank you Jewish immigrants, who brought us fish and chips. (I accept your correction GNs)
Thanks to the Italians who brought Italian ice cream.
Thanks to the Chinese who brought their cuisine.
For those of us who love curries, we know who to thank.

Maremia

Thank you Jewish immigrants, who brought us fish and chips. (I accept your correction GNs)
Thanks to the Italians who brought Italian ice cream.
Thanks to the Chinese who brought their cuisine.
For those of us who love curries, we know who to thank.

Your point is?

Thank you Jewish immigrants, who brought us fish and chips. (I accept your correction GNs)

It could have been the Huguenots who brought us fried potatoes aka chips now.
Also oxtail soup.

I'm not keen on either, strangely.

Oreo

We need to get the millions not working here back into jobs.

Would you like to give us a breakdown of those millions, Oreo?

Perhaps tell us how many millions you're referring to? 5? 10? 15? 20? More than that?

GrannyGravy13

Maremia

Thank you Jewish immigrants, who brought us fish and chips. (I accept your correction GNs)
Thanks to the Italians who brought Italian ice cream.
Thanks to the Chinese who brought their cuisine.
For those of us who love curries, we know who to thank.

Your point is?

I think she's implying that we love their food but we don't seem to love them

This is a dreadful thread. really.

To be more specific. People will give all sorts of reasons for their racist views. Actually, most don't even realise their views are racist and will defend them as being perfectly acceptable and rational. This is what Farage relies on and where his support comes from. My community is representative of many rural communities, it is not unique. It's been a conservative area for years with a bit of a blip when we had a liberal MP. I know there is racism because I have heard it and seen it. I'm friends with my dentist and he has told me about his experiences in the first year of practicing in my town and frankly it made me ashamed of the community I live in. My question is what makes people racist? Why when they have essentially the same issues eg lack of council housing, poor services, waiting lists, etc etc , as those living in ethnically diverse areas but don't have an immigrant community in their midst, they still blame immigration for all their woes and will probably vote for Reform. Not everyone is like that, of course, but there is a core of people who are and from the results of the last GE, it's pretty much in line with other areas in terms of percentage.

Do they ever leave the village. Do they go to other towns. I think there is this view that those in villages not affected by immigration don't see other areas, which isn't generally true.

For those of us who love curries, we know who to thank.

Not Indian people (except for my NDN whose curries smell and are delicious).

Usually people from Bangladesh

Perhaps they are disillusioned with the government and concerned that far too much money is being spent on the illegal immigrants. when it could possibly be spent on other issues that are affecting them.

It is a dreadful thread MaisieD isn’t it? I would have thought that Elders like us would be able to sort facts from the fiction being spread by the likes of Radcliffe, Musk, Farage and Trump - to name but a few of the millionaires pushing their own agenda.

sundowngirl

Perhaps they are disillusioned with the government and concerned that far too much money is being spent on the illegal immigrants. when it could possibly be spent on other issues that are affecting them.

The problem is the amount of misinformation spread by the tabloids and social media that lie about what illegal immigrants are provided with by the state. And once a lie has been made it stays in people’s mind ( when they want it to anyway).