Mamdani elected New York Mayor

Probs is Daisy, some folk have deeply held views, that do not stand up to scrutiny.
But it is their right to post, and in the same way, for others to disagree.

Yes, absolutely London voted for khan. He is their mayor, democracy in action. The same as America voted for Trump twice, and he is their
president.
I have some vague concern about the position of mayor that I find really difficult to articulate, it sits uncomfortably with me, whatever the political party.

Flick1

New York will end up like Gavin Newsom’s California and Khan’s London. It’s nothing to celebrate.

You mean the California that is one the worlds largest economies. They're doing terribly I can see. Their Federal tax take props up many of the Red States that are full of voters who hate them. I wish they'd stop quite frankly. Obviously Newsom doesn't have a clue </sarc>

California is the 5th largest economy globally by nominal GDP. Its gross domestic product (GDP) is approximately $4.215 trillion. California briefly surpassed Japan in 2024 to become the 4th largest economy but slipped back to 5th place in 2025 due to Japan's economic growth and a stronger yen.

California ranks behind only the United States as a whole, China, Germany, and Japan. Its economy is diverse and powered by leading sectors including technology, entertainment, agriculture, and manufacturing. California's growth rate recently outpaced that of the top global economies, although it experienced some slowdown in 2025.

Also, for claims that this Thread is not of interest to UK GNs, it is fairly banging along.

There seems to be a weird idea of debate on this thread. It really doesn't mean "I believe "x"; I'm not going to substantiate it but if you don't agree you are wrong."

London voted three times for Khan to be their Mayor.
What's wrong with California?

Actually, why are we talking about Khan in relation to Mamdami?
Why not other British mayors?

What counts as a "knife crime" varies greatly.

UK statistics focus on a selection of serious offenses (like murder/manslaughter, robbery, and assault) where a knife or sharp instrument was used. Many international cities only publish "homicide" rates.

Don't forget, as people have said, gun crime is more prevalent elsewhere.

IOMGran I think per capita figures don't show London to be several times higher.

Greater London:
188 knife crimes per 100,000 Population
West Midlands Police Birmingham 156
Cleveland Police Middlesbrough 149

(Knife crimes are recorded by policing area I discovered.)

Flick1

New York will go the same way as Newsom’s California and Khan’s London - it’s nothing to celebrate, quite the reverse.

Well the Californians, are intent on retaining Newsom, as are Londoners keen to retain Khan, so they obviously don’t agree with your opinion.

New York will go the same way as Newsom’s California and Khan’s London - it’s nothing to celebrate, quite the reverse.

New York will end up like Gavin Newsom’s California and Khan’s London. It’s nothing to celebrate.

It does depend on how you ask the question, about which city is the worst for this and for that.
Interesting it does say that Bradford is the most 'dangerous' city.
Didn't know that.
How do they decide it?

The usual, bbc ( although mired in the gender flat earth stuff) sky, ch 4, quite like the Spectator sometimes, like unherd and long form podcasts for analysis/political debate, still look at guardian articles, do look at X, look at Facebook for more local news, although that can descend into some fairly irate debates on our local Facebook.

No, I think 'misinformation ' means posting lies.
Trump does it all the time.

We don't necessarily disagree with your posts. Just asking for proof of assertions is not 'disagreement'.

Galaxy

All over, I don't read newspapers anymore, maybe a few online articles, but I don't know many who do read the press nowadays. I avoid blue sky because I have seen the threats towards gender critical women and didn't need more of that in my life.

So where do you get your news? You have listed places you don't go.

Galaxy

All over, I don't read newspapers anymore, maybe a few online articles, but I don't know many who do read the press nowadays. I avoid blue sky because I have seen the threats towards gender critical women and didn't need more of that in my life.

What threat? I personally have a nuance view on trans myself. I am happy for a man or a woman to change genders, however I don't want anyone who does this to presume they own their new genders narrative. I am not a fan of late gender changing men competing in women's physical sports as I think it's basically unfair. However I see little point in sport anyway, I don't care if one person whose ancestors evolved in high altitude place can run faster than anyone else. Somehow I manage to survive Blue Sky and no one has turned up to smash my windows yet.

All over, I don't read newspapers anymore, maybe a few online articles, but I don't know many who do read the press nowadays. I avoid blue sky because I have seen the threats towards gender critical women and didn't need more of that in my life.

Common sense is mot so common! But yes, let it prevail.

On the 10pm news last week (both BBC and ITV) they had an item on

London is the mobile phone snatching/stealing capitol of the world

Oreo

Galaxy

What the misinformation trope generally means is 'you' are reading sources I don't like. It is exhausting.

Isn’t it tho?

So OK, where do you get your news from? I showed you mine.

Arto1s

I hate to say this, but really, what is the point of Gransnet after all. Every time I post on here nobody takes me seriously. I find most responses to my posts absolutely insulting. Not that I care, But I know what I know. Please, let common sense prevail.

Sorry? You post something, and people disagree with you? Oh the horror!! What is this common sense thing then?

Oreo

I just googled knife crime in London, which I, you, and other posters on this thread are able to do.
Look it up yourself and enjoy analysing.

Knife crime in London has risen substantially since the mid-20th century, peaking recently.

London has the highest knife crime rates in the UK, several times higher than national averages.

Nationally, knife crime has also grown but remains less concentrated than in London.

Sociological factors such as gang activity, drug markets, and urban density influence these trends.

Recent policy efforts persist in trying to reverse the upward trajectory.

In context of general serious violent crime.

Both knife crime and general serious violence have risen notably in London since mid-20th century.

Serious violence includes but is not limited to knife crime; the latter is an important subset.

London rates of serious violence are several times higher than national averages, similar pattern to knife crime.

Trends over the last 20 years show similar upward trajectories with some recent stabilization.

Sociological, geographic, and policing factors impact these crime types similarly but not identically.

Overall, knife crime trends parallel serious violence trends but represent a specific and particularly concerning part of the broader violent crime picture in London.

The last 12 months we have a government that wants to fund this issue to be sorted, and there are encouraging early data points.

Having lived in London crime is very much a postcode thing. The poor and black are definitely more affected by gangs and perpetrate and are victims to knife crime disproportionately.

The statement that London’s violent crime rate is below the UK average can seem counterintuitive but is explained by how crime rates are measured and reported:

1. **Population and Crime Rate Calculations**: Crime rates are typically calculated as the number of crimes per 1,000 or 10,000 people. London’s rate of violent crime per capita is often compared against averages across all of England and Wales, including many smaller towns and rural areas where crime rates (especially violent crime) are traditionally very low.

2. **Variation in Types of Violent Crime**: London experiences high rates of some types of violent crime, particularly knife crime and some assaults. However, other forms of serious violence like gun crime are rare in most parts of the UK outside London. Conversely, some regions outside London report higher rates of other violent crimes like domestic violence or alcohol-related assaults.

3. **Data Grouping Differences by Police Areas**: The UK average includes areas with very high crime rates such as parts of Northern England and major cities like Manchester, which can push the national average upward. But London itself has a very large, diverse population, including many lower crime boroughs that bring down the average violent crime rate compared to the UK average, which encompasses smaller towns with lower or variable crime.

4. **Reporting and Policing Factors**: London’s policing resources, crime prevention initiatives, and public awareness of violent crime lead to higher reporting rates of certain crimes like knife possession but also active policing to reduce violent crime. Different areas may have variations in crime reporting and recording standards that influence rates.

5. **Recent Data Nuances**: In some recent official statistics, London’s total violent crime rate was reported as lower than the national average due to methodology, population nuances, and crime category classifications. However, when focusing narrowly on serious violence or knife crime, London’s rates remain among the highest nationally.[1][2][3][4]

In essence, London’s overall violent crime rate per capita being below the UK average reflects the full spectrum of violence measured across all UK areas, with London’s unique social dynamics and population scale balancing out very high violence concentrations in some inner-city boroughs.

[1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_London)
[2](https://www.statista.com/statistics/380963/london-crime-rate/)
[3](https://www.statista.com/statistics/863276/violent-crime-in-london/)
[4](https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/methodologies/userguidetocrimestatisticsforenglandandwales)

I hate to say this, but really, what is the point of Gransnet after all. Every time I post on here nobody takes me seriously. I find most responses to my posts absolutely insulting. Not that I care, But I know what I know. Please, let common sense prevail.

Galaxy

What the misinformation trope generally means is 'you' are reading sources I don't like. It is exhausting.

Isn’t it tho?

Sadly, the aggression on this thread is certainly not in my head but coming in this particular instance from you.You did say a few pages back that you were feeling passive aggressive today or some such.
We all have some sadness or ill health in our lives or those of our families but shouldn’t seek to take that out on real people on forums.