Solid Trump rejection. So what happened in the U.K.?

Hear, hear Wyllow 👏👏👏

A responsible paper would have given the actual figures we'll gain in the trade deal, and allude to the reciprocal arrangements as regards NI/health care that apply in these situations.

But no - across the board red top style shock horror.

BTW, the EU is also working on the same Trade deal with India"
Both India and the EU have said they aim to finalise this by the end of 2025" Beneficial to us as tariff blocks lessen cross borders.

Freya, you would trust Farage over Starmer? Why?

Thanks for the full and correct interpretation of events Wyllow3.

Not me - thanks to J52 for the research apart from my research about just how many papers ignored the facts..

Brexit was meant to free the UK to make trade deals with other countries and we have made one. Hurrah! A boost for the whisky industry for starters.

Benefits for:

UK exports that will see levies fall include:
gin and whisky
aerospace, electricals and medical devices
cosmetics
lamb, salmon, chocolates and biscuits
higher value cars

(highlighted the ££££ ones)

Wyllow3

Not me - thanks to J52 for the research apart from my research about just how many papers ignored the facts..

Facts appear to be anathema to many these days!

Wyllow3

Benefits for:

UK exports that will see levies fall include:
gin and whisky
aerospace, electricals and medical devices
cosmetics
lamb, salmon, chocolates and biscuits
higher value cars

(highlighted the ££££ ones)

The Scottish Whisky Association are pleased saying it will increase trade and UK jobs. Their Chair said it was a “game changer” for the industry.
Let’s applaud something positive for a change.

👏👏👏

LizzieDrip

^Most people who say they deserve to be here are hypocrits as they don't want them in their own spare room, street or town^

Sazz1 you must have incredible access to the views of most people who support asylum seekers & immigrants, in order to make this claim and accuse us of hypocrisy.

I wonder how you know this?

Speaking for myself (which is all any of us can really do) I live in a town alongside many immigrants. They are welcomed in my street and my town. Indeed, their culture is celebrated and we now have two new Asian / Caribbean supermarkets. Brilliant! No hypocrisy here

Immigrants or boat immigrants?
Night and day difference in my book.

Why fancythat?

You really dont know the difference?

Immigrants -
here to work. And in jobs that are needed doing.
here legally
gone through the right channels
have good intentions
have proper paperwork
I could go on

Boat immigrants - arrived illegally
Who knows what their real intentions are
often dont have proper paperwork
arrived illegally, so may not have many qualms about other illegality either

1) Boat immigrants - arrived illegally:
because there is no legal route to apply for asylum in the UK from counties such as Syria, Afghanistan, Sudan

2) Who knows what their real intentions are:
to seek refuge and safety

3) often don't have proper paperwork:
because they have fled their homeland without it

4) arrived illegally, so may not have many qualms about other illegality either:
Really?

5) Walk a mile in their shoes

1. I know that. Doesnt mean they didnt arrive illegally, because they did.

2. who knows? Some maybe.

3. hmm. not buying that. most people are aware of trouble brewing and would pick up the most basic of paperwork.

4. definitely yes

5. see above

Whitewavemark2

Two successful large western powers, both solidly rejected Trump to the extent that both Trump supporting leaders lost their seat.

What on earth is wrong with the voter in the. U.K.?

Are they as daft as the MAGA lot?

We have a thick rump of them, concentrated in the areas that people leave if they can. It's pretty sad that although we offer free education for at least 13 years there are so many uneducated and ill informed citizens.

I would also add, conspiracy style, does a gover nment have intentions for boat immigrants?

fancythat

You really dont know the difference?

Immigrants -
here to work. And in jobs that are needed doing.
here legally
gone through the right channels
have good intentions
have proper paperwork
I could go on

Boat immigrants - arrived illegally
Who knows what their real intentions are
often dont have proper paperwork
arrived illegally, so may not have many qualms about other illegality either

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
But facts aren’t always appreciated 😄

^Who knows what their real intentions are;
often dont have proper paperwork; may not have many qualms about other illegality either^

Facts???

Yes, they arrive here ‘illegally’ because there is no legal route to apply for asylum in the UK from counties such as Syria, Afghanistan, Sudan. Fact!

Not everyone has your touching faith in the motives of all the mainly young men who arrive here illegally by the boatload every day LizzieDrip

I realise that Oreo.

What on earth is a boat immigrant? Would it be a Syrian family for example? A lone Mum from Eritrea who I met recently? A young man from Sudan? The disabled older woman from Albania?

Um. A person who arrives on a boat perhaps?

Um, it's obviously a generic and unkind term to describe other human beings who none of us have met.

lafergar

Um, it's obviously a generic and unkind term to describe other human beings who none of us have met.

No it’s a factual description of how they enter the U.K. in order to claim asylum.