A view from the other side of the same side - Israel.

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Interesting.

A very well spoken piece with some excellent points.

I don’t support Netanyahu and parts of his govt, but I do support the right of the Israeli people, and all of the Jewish faith, to live in peace.

In exactly the same way I do NOT support Hamas or Putin or any other dictator or terrorist group.

I support the right of everyone to live in peace,.
Israeli or not

Anniebach

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and this is sad, because if you are not prepared to listen to other pov, especially from other Jews, who do not support the war/genocide in Gaza and the West Bank- then how can you judge? Why not accept that there are Jews, who feel very differently to other Jews. Why are you totally prepared to listen to one side, and then close eyes and ears to another. Not Palestinians, who you'd say are not to be trusted, or biased. But Jews, huge numbers of them, who oppose Netanyahu and cannot accept the destruction of Palestine and Palestinians, their evictions with a right to return.

Cossy, I am not a Jew, nor am I a Palestinian. And I am certainly NOT a supporter of Hamas either. But why should the pain, suffering and treatment of one side be any more 'valid' than that of the other side. Especially as now the plan is to expel them from their land forever, those who have not yet been bombed to smithereens, without a right of return.

An eye for an eye, hate for hate - and we all become blind, deaf and dumb. We with them.

Two wrongs do not make a right they just encourage more wrongs, and there have been so many wrongs leading up to the situation we are in now.

Because you Claremont post them, you say ‘huge numbers ‘
you do not know, you post a speech allegedly given by a Rabi,
it’s truth.

‘One swallow does not a summer make’

Thank you for putting this on Claremont. It is powerful and thought provoking. Katie is a brave woman.

Annie you should listen, not pass. What she as an Israeli woman says is worth listening to.

silverlining48

Thank you for putting this on Claremont. It is powerful and thought provoking. Katie is a brave woman.

Annie you should listen, not pass. What she as an Israeli woman says is worth listening to.

Why is it worth listening to?

So I'm Jewish.

Am I worth listening to? You wouldn't agree with my attitude. So you'd say no, I wasn't worth listening to

I've lived in Israel. I used to be part of the chaperones who took very ill Palestinians to Israel for medical treatment. Hundreds. Cancer patients, young and old.

Do you know about that?

The OP informed us the other day that Israelis want Palestinians dead. Which is totally untrue.

So I'm not going to pay any attention to someone so ignorant of truth

It is well worth listening to - as Claremont says this is not someone just having an ego-boosting rant, this is someone who knows her card will be marked for making this video but does it anyway in the name of truth.
If the woman is brave enough to say this so publicly, despite the flak she will take, there are almost certainly many others who agree with her privately but won't risk going public.

I dont take the moral decisions I have taken because someone is Jewish or Palestian, I am able to make those moral decisions myself. Everytime I read for example the hostages thread, I move further away from the progressives. As I said currently Boris Johnson is producing a statement on the Bibas family that I 100 % agree with.

Galaxy

I dont take the moral decisions I have taken because someone is Jewish or Palestian, I am able to make those moral decisions myself. Everytime I read for example the hostages thread, I move further away from the progressives. As I said currently Boris Johnson is producing a statement on the Bibas family that I 100 % agree with.

Exactly!

Claremont knows that the Facebook links she posts can only be accessed by GN members who have a Facebook account.

Limited audience.

Interesting post @ Rula - not many posts on GN on this subject come with your degree of lived experience.

Rula

silverlining48

Thank you for putting this on Claremont. It is powerful and thought provoking. Katie is a brave woman.

Annie you should listen, not pass. What she as an Israeli woman says is worth listening to.

Why is it worth listening to?

So I'm Jewish.

Am I worth listening to? You wouldn't agree with my attitude. So you'd say no, I wasn't worth listening to

I've lived in Israel. I used to be part of the chaperones who took very ill Palestinians to Israel for medical treatment. Hundreds. Cancer patients, young and old.

Do you know about that?

The OP informed us the other day that Israelis want Palestinians dead. Which is totally untrue.

So I'm not going to pay any attention to someone so ignorant of truth

👏🏻👏🏻

Rula

silverlining48

Thank you for putting this on Claremont. It is powerful and thought provoking. Katie is a brave woman.

Annie you should listen, not pass. What she as an Israeli woman says is worth listening to.

Why is it worth listening to?

So I'm Jewish.

Am I worth listening to? You wouldn't agree with my attitude. So you'd say no, I wasn't worth listening to

I've lived in Israel. I used to be part of the chaperones who took very ill Palestinians to Israel for medical treatment. Hundreds. Cancer patients, young and old.

Do you know about that?

The OP informed us the other day that Israelis want Palestinians dead. Which is totally untrue.

So I'm not going to pay any attention to someone so ignorant of truth

Thank you for that 👏👏👏👏
You have probably noticed that there are some members who because they see a few posts on FB who don’t support Netanyahu every Jewish person doesn’t support him thereby validating their views.

Rula, you have just illustrated, very well, that Israeli Jews can be very different in attitude and opinions. It is wrong to claim all the time that Jews, including Israeli Jews, are all supporters or Netanyanhu or the destruction, eviction without right to return, of the Palestinian people.

We rarely see photos or videos of the horrors happening in Palestine, to real people. No Press allowed there, and any from inside are just dismissed as 'false propaganda'.

Which is why it is important to hear about the other side, as expressed a young Jewish woman, knowing full well she will ahve to suffer the consequences.

Rula 👏👏👏

Quote Rula Sat 22-Feb-25 18:33:59
silverlining48
Thank you for putting this on Claremont. It is powerful and thought provoking. Katie is a brave woman.

Annie you should listen, not pass. What she as an Israeli woman says is worth listening to.
Why is it worth listening to?

So I'm Jewish.

Am I worth listening to? You wouldn't agree with my attitude. So you'd say no, I wasn't worth listening to

I've lived in Israel. I used to be part of the chaperones who took very ill Palestinians to Israel for medical treatment. Hundreds. Cancer patients, young and old.

Do you know about that?

The OP informed us the other day that Israelis want Palestinians dead. Which is totally untrue.

So I'm not going to pay any attention to someone so ignorant of truth

Same for me Rula I have read so many posts from the
O/P, so many about the large number of Jews who are against the Israeli government. No one knows how many for or against
this is fact

GrannyGravy13

Claremont knows that the Facebook links she posts can only be accessed by GN members who have a Facebook account.

Limited audience.

If I had alternative, I would post them. I do not.

But Jews who feel the same way as this young woman are not 'just a few on FB' - it is totally false and very biased to claim this.

If we don't listen to different voices, how can we reach understandings? It's important to hear them.

Yes Rula I do know about Israeli people who took Palestinian people out of Gaza for the most serious medical treatment and credit to them.

I also know it was not easy to get that permission, there were often long waits or permission refused to seriously ill Gazans. Women in difficult labour , who died.

I believe that everyone be entitled to medical care which should not be on the whim of a probably non medical official saying yay or nay to get treatment for a seriously ill person to cross a heavily guarded border.

From the Times of Israel (Conservative) and not the 'left-wing' Haaretz

'A recent poll finds that less than 4 percent of the Jewish Israeli public believe Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is a reliable source of information on the ongoing war between Israel and the Hamas terror group.

The figure rose slightly to 6.63% among right-wing voters.

Like reading the Telegraph or the Mail !