Oops! Sir Keir drops a massive 45 points in the opinion polls.

That hasn't taken very long has it.

He was voted in by a massive majority …. be careful what you wish for

apparently it is over £300.000 worth of freebies..

What to KS pascal?

That's what they said on Radio 4 today

How much of that is really true and how much is for the gullible to absorb from the right wing press?

I've no idea Doodledog just as I've no idea if the 22 billion black hole is true, or just for the gullible to absorb.

His problems have deepened tonight with more freeloading. also Angela Rayner did not declare taking friend on hols funded by Lord Alli to Manhattan in the New Year so she might be in trouble.

It just goes on and on.

Your comments have shocked me Doodledog and saddened me too.

Why would you call people gullible?

What of any of the newly addressed facts do you think actually arn't, and how are people behaving in a gullible fashion?

What are the ‘newly addressed facts’?

Where are people behaving in a gullible fashion?

Smileless2012

I've no idea Doodledog just as I've no idea if the 22 billion black hole is true, or just for the gullible to absorb.

The national debt – the sum total of every deficit – rose by 4.3 percentage points during the year to August 2024, to 100% of GDP, meaning an overall debt pile equal in size to the annual value of everything produced in the economy. Of course there’s a problem.

I'm not denying there's a problem Casdon but I would like a detailed account of the 22 billion black hole.

Why, what purpose would that serve? It’s a fact that we are deeper in debt than we have been since the early 1960s, what we need now is a robust plan to improve our position, not endless post-mortems.

Perhaps less money being sent out of this country to fund various hopeless causes, groups and foreign wars would be a start.

Casdon

Why, what purpose would that serve? It’s a fact that we are deeper in debt than we have been since the early 1960s, what we need now is a robust plan to improve our position, not endless post-mortems.

The government isn't after reducing the 'debt'. It would be impossible to do that because they cannot unilaterally 'repay' everyone who has savings and investments with them. i.e government bond holders, premium bond holders and people with NSI savings accounts. The govt. can only 'repay' these people if they actually ask for their money to be returned to them. Which very few are going to do because their money is safer 'invested' in govt. bonds & savings vehicles than anywhere else as the govt will never default. It will always pay the agreed interest or the principle if repayment is requested. British governments have had 'debt' for centuries. It hasn't been a problem so long as the debt can be serviced. Which it can be as tge govt creates the money with which to service it.

What the govt. wants to do is to, quite unnecessarily, to reduce the 'deficit', which is the difference between incoming revenue and govt. spending. Unfortunately, taking money out of the economy by cutting spending will make our current situation much worse.

biglouis

Perhaps less money being sent out of this country to fund various hopeless causes, groups and foreign wars would be a start.

Preventing the wealthy from sucking so much money out of the economy and hoarding it would be much more effective.

MaizieD

biglouis

Perhaps less money being sent out of this country to fund various hopeless causes, groups and foreign wars would be a start.

Preventing the wealthy from sucking so much money out of the economy and hoarding it would be much more effective.

Kier is quite wealthy.

He had a law passed especially to cope with his large unusual pension.

No one else has that privilege.

Smileless2012

I'm not denying there's a problem Casdon but I would like a detailed account of the 22 billion black hole.

I believe the FT put in an information request to find the answer to this (I'm sure you know ergo your question Smileless).

They were incredulous to be told No, they are not able to release such info.

This should sort it

Nice if, one day, there was a real working man with a real working man’s priorities in power wouldn’t it? Someone who didn’t have to ‘prove’ they were ‘workers’ by citing their parenthood. Not particularly thinking of the KS, our bloke ,Albo, is the same. Sometimes I get sick of the whole lot of them, bunch of clowns.

I am surprised that KS has dropped by only 45 percent. I wonder just how much more he can drop? And still in power?

LucyLocket55

He was voted in by a massive majority …. be careful what you wish for

Get real, 20% of the uk population is not a majority of voters

He will be out before long, to be replaced by another robot at the beck and call of the paymasters