O. J. Simpson has died.

You are absolutely right Norah.

It wasn’t down to professionals BlueBelle, the jury, mostly black, found him not guilty. It’s common knowledge he got away with murder and the victims’ parents took out a civil case against him and he was found guilty and ordered to pay millions but I don’t believe they received much, if any, of it.

It is. I e only visited once, and then Boston, Mass, NYC and Washington. Liberal by U S standards. I was surprised that the legacies of slavery were so evident - naive of me

Iam64

Norah , radio 4 earlier described the criminal trial jury as largely black and the civil jury as largely white

Interesting.

Deeply divided country. My brother never told me that bit (or I never asked).

Norah , radio 4 earlier described the criminal trial jury as largely black and the civil jury as largely white

BlueBelle

I m not sympathetic if you mean me tickingbird all I m saying is there appeared not to be enough proof to convict him I don’t know if he was good or bad did the deed or didn’t do it and it seems nor did the professionals know or else he would have been behind bars for life
He may well have been a thoroughly nasty piece of goods I didn’t know him though I can’t judge we can only go by the courts decisions surely

It appeared the jury believed Mr. Simpson had been framed by racist police. If I recall correctly, the jury was mostly black - they reached the verdict.

BlueBelle

I m not sympathetic if you mean me tickingbird all I m saying is there appeared not to be enough proof to convict him I don’t know if he was good or bad did the deed or didn’t do it and it seems nor did the professionals know or else he would have been behind bars for life
He may well have been a thoroughly nasty piece of goods I didn’t know him though I can’t judge we can only go by the courts decisions surely

Yes, there was sufficient proof but the prosecution was not robust and there could have been a reluctance to find someone who was such a famous sporting icon guilty.

I saw that on the news this morning, and my thoughts were that he has met his maker and the ultimate judge. Not that I am very religious , but I do believe in some form of afterlife or karma.

I m not sympathetic if you mean me tickingbird all I m saying is there appeared not to be enough proof to convict him I don’t know if he was good or bad did the deed or didn’t do it and it seems nor did the professionals know or else he would have been behind bars for life
He may well have been a thoroughly nasty piece of goods I didn’t know him though I can’t judge we can only go by the courts decisions surely

tickingbird

Unbelievable that some on here seem to be sympathetic to this man. He may have got off but his wife’s throat was cut and her friend stabbed to death. He carried on to commit armed robbery and that’s why he served time in prison.

Like Galaxy I’m thinking of Nicole Brown and Ron Goodman and their families today.

All seemed/seems quite unjust. Perhaps a broken legal system?

One of the worst injustices ever seen.

Unbelievable that some on here seem to be sympathetic to this man. He may have got off but his wife’s throat was cut and her friend stabbed to death. He carried on to commit armed robbery and that’s why he served time in prison.

Like Galaxy I’m thinking of Nicole Brown and Ron Goodman and their families today.

He was convicted for armed robbery and the kidnapping of two sport memorabilia dealers at gun point.

BlueBelle

Ahh I didn’t realise he was that old I suppose the memory of him is stuck in that ‘year of intrigue’
If it was a wrongful sentence that was awful I remember the gloves he was supposed to have worn in the murder wouldn’t even go on his hands
He was always much loved before that terrible day

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Too sad, too bad.

Oh well.

welbeck

Norah

I believe the criminal trial ended in acquittal, civil trial convicted.

My brother litigating in America, interesting cases.

the civil court found in favour of the plaintiffs, and awarded damages accordingly.
convictions only take place in criminal courts.

Sorry I used words improperly.

The result was as you say (awarded damages) though the total awarded damages have never been paid. The families of Brown and Goldman civil trial resulted in a reward of over $40 million in damages.

time served was for an unrelated matter.
some kind of poetic justice, maybe.

Yes there was a car chase I remember too
I think it was iffy and I guess only he really knew what happened that day I think he served about ten years instead of life
One of these things that we ll never know I suppose

I am thinking of Nicole Brown and Ron Goldman today.

Norah

I believe the criminal trial ended in acquittal, civil trial convicted.

My brother litigating in America, interesting cases.

the civil court found in favour of the plaintiffs, and awarded damages accordingly.
convictions only take place in criminal courts.

Although Mr Simpson was found not guilty in the criminal trial, the Goldman and Brown families in 1997 won a 33.5 million dollar civil judgement against him from a jury that ruled he was liable for the murders. (Washington post)

Nicole’s journals recorded 60 different incidents of alleged bearings

I believe the criminal trial ended in acquittal, civil trial convicted.

My brother litigating in America, interesting cases.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind.

Robert Kardashian was his lawyer.

Wasn't there a police car chase live on TV? I seem to remember that.

Yes that's right welbeck it was his wife's family I think that took it to court and won.