Care Funding - under the radar

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corsetclique

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The announced was made when MPs are on holiday. Key focus of news was Trump's arraignment. It's almost like they've got something to hide. This cut will hit disadvantaged people who need Social Care for years to come. As often stated you never know when you might need the support of Social Care. Given the huge challenge this service in under you better hope you never do!

I'm wondering why this hasn't had more comment.
I heard it on the BBC a couple of days ago, but nothing since.

These u turns are often hidden from the public by releasing them at a time when something high profile is in the news. It's fully intended. People are looking elsewhere. Spin doctors have a lot to answer for. Shocking.

But not much comment from posters here.

What do you expect from the Tories? Largesse?

If only, Gramaretto.
Having recognised that there is a crisis in care, and the knock on effect that has on the NHS’ ability to discharge people, the government made a commitment to enable LAs and private providers to support training and developing a career structure for carers. They committed a sum to do that (not enough, but a start). To then withdraw half the funding and for it not to be noticed or, apparently cared about by the electorate is a very sad state of affairs in my view.

Ridiculous, offer the sector £500m a few weeks back, and then halve it!

More/better social care = freeing up of hospital beds = A&E able to admit quicker = More capacity in A&E = Ambulances able to hand over quicker, rather than queuing outside for hours = Able to attend more calls = better patient experience and less excess deaths!

It's not that difficult really .... but no, let's halve the funding!

westendgirl

I'm wondering why this hasn't had more comment.
I heard it on the BBC a couple of days ago, but nothing since.

Because they are hiding it and are enabling the media to spend more time on their divisive policies like 'Stop the Boats' and Coffey's picturesque video about our waterways, which is enough to make you vomit!

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Of course I remember now: BoJo said he'd fixed social care with that NI hike. All problems solved. Nothing to see here. Move along.

westendgirl

But not much comment from posters here.

What do you expect?

When I heard the news it just added to my depression about this appalling government. Even the paltry sum first announced seemed too good to be true. Now we know that it certainly was...

It is going to be too late before people realise this affects them

westendgirl

But not much comment from posters here.

"On here" is getting less worth visiting as it has become a place of Daily Mail style, "I can do no wrong, but the man/woman/person down the road is the reason our country has such a massive decline in living standards, and an equally out of all proportion growth in inequality".

Add to that the closure of public facilities and the deliberate breaking of our public services, including Care and the NHS, by lack of investment and you may find it takes a little longer for posters to get around to answering when they know what the reaction is likely to be from those who would rather "other" any more easy group target than work out what has been done to us by the 13 years of this government.

Some will now "other" me, as has been done before and call me "a hater". But I don't hate anyone; I simply hate their callous actions and cruel disregard for the outcomes of those actions.

I am a carer in a residential home and nothing surprises.
me now.carers/care homes are always pushed to the bottom of the pile. NHS takes priority.
We have a majority of foreign workers at my care home and where as if they go to the NHS. a certain level of English is demanded it is not when they come to a care home. Some of our carers can barely string a sentence together, staff can barely understand then, never mind the poor residents 🤦‍♀️

Shinamae

I am a carer in a residential home and nothing surprises.
me now.carers/care homes are always pushed to the bottom of the pile. NHS takes priority.
We have a majority of foreign workers at my care home and where as if they go to the NHS. a certain level of English is demanded it is not when they come to a care home. Some of our carers can barely string a sentence together, staff can barely understand then, never mind the poor residents 🤦‍♀️

This move doesn’t benefit the NHS either though Shinamae, it just makes life harder for all those affected - the service users, the carers, the NHS, people who need NHS or social care but won’t get it. For a relatively small amount of money that had already been committed, things could have started to be improved.

Just how much worse it can get before people are on the streets protesting, but on reflection it’s not hard to see why there hasn’t been a proper revolution in this country.
Give the prols a bit of distraction like a coronation, to keep them happy, occupied and acquiescent.

Unless people are directly affected by the cuts, it seems to me that they are complacent, and realisation will only dawn when they or their loved ones become frail, dependent or ill and there are no accessible services.

The picture for me is so depressing with an uncaring Government, and an ineffective Tory-lite Opposition with no positive policies. The best they can offer is a crass Twitter post criticising Sunak for going soft on paedophiles.

There’s more likelihood of an outcry over that that social care cuts unfortunately.

Shinamae totally agree with your post. My DH is in a care home and majority of the carers are very young Agency staff who can barely speak English. We cannot understand them and they certainly cannot understand us.

The other day my DH asked for a cup of tea and the carer came back with a key! I rest my case.

Farzanah

Just how much worse it can get before people are on the streets protesting, but on reflection it’s not hard to see why there hasn’t been a proper revolution in this country.
Give the prols a bit of distraction like a coronation, to keep them happy, occupied and acquiescent.

Unless people are directly affected by the cuts, it seems to me that they are complacent, and realisation will only dawn when they or their loved ones become frail, dependent or ill and there are no accessible services.

The picture for me is so depressing with an uncaring Government, and an ineffective Tory-lite Opposition with no positive policies. The best they can offer is a crass Twitter post criticising Sunak for going soft on paedophiles.

There’s more likelihood of an outcry over that that social care cuts unfortunately.

And there is an example of my previous post.

FishandChips15

Shinamae totally agree with your post. My DH is in a care home and majority of the carers are very young Agency staff who can barely speak English. We cannot understand them and they certainly cannot understand us.

The other day my DH asked for a cup of tea and the carer came back with a key! I rest my case.

And nobody cares….

As frequently mentioned The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members. Mahatma Gandhi.

Says it all really. This is what of neoliberalism has done to our society. Free market capitalism at its worst.

Deciding to privatise the Care System some years ago was the beginning of the end. Care of the Elderly can never be for profit.

Yes DaisyAnne Just look at the interest generated on the Coronation forums.
We are going to hell in a hand cart.

Farzanah

As frequently mentioned The true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members. Mahatma Gandhi.

Says it all really. This is what of neoliberalism has done to our society. Free market capitalism at its worst.

Deciding to privatise the Care System some years ago was the beginning of the end. Care of the Elderly can never be for profit.

Deciding to privatise the Care System some years ago was the beginning of the end. Care of the Elderly can never be for profit.

I thought so at the time. And was told that private enterprise could run care homes, etc, more efficiently.

Private care homes, run by organisations or individual proprietors can only make a profit if they cut their costs, by employing cheap labour - and as little of it as is absolutely necessary - and cutting their overheads. In other words, providing the minimum.
When social care and healthcare become commodities, then there can only be one outcome.

I can only assume this is the outcome that people want - or maybe they believe there's no alternative - because this government remains popular with sufficient numbers of people.

It doesn't have to be this way, but nothing will change unless people start to revolt, and there's about as much chance of that happening as there is of pigs flying.

But, run a few column inches on the never-ending saga of Harry n' Meghan, and there will be hundreds of people (thousands if it's on Facebook) getting involved... involved with two people whose lives will have little to no effect on their own lives.
But cutting an already meagre budget which was supposed o help relieve the pressure on the floundering NHS...meh, who cares.

I think a lot depends on the medium.

‘On here’ there are voices which shout down anyone who disagrees (sometimes before they have even got the words out) and use sophistry such as ‘I know I will be ‘othered’’ to stop debate before it starts. Or sneer and poke fun at disagreers. I cba with it, so ‘on here’ I mainly chat about Corrie and other less contentious topics these days - I used to get involved far more in N&P threads, but just as in real life I avoid people who are vexatious and unpleasant.

As I’m here though, I do think it’s a disgrace that social care is so badly underfunded, but I have given my opinion on this so often before, and been insulted and shouted down for it equally often, so I see no point in doing so again. I continue to spout my opinions elsewhere though, and do what I can in other ways. I don’t expect to be agreed with all the time, but I do expect to be treated with basic respect, and that is in short supply ‘on here’ at times.

I can’t see how starting a thread hoping for responses and then insulting GN members is going to provoke debate, for instance.