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Asylum seekers unhappy at Stratford- upon- Avon Hotel

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lemsip Sat 25-Mar-23 21:16:36

And asylum seekers are also frequently unhappy about languishing in sometimes isolated hotels, and unable to work due to strict rules, a MailOnline investigation has found.

Typical were asylum seekers staying at the three-star Grosvenor Hotel in Stratford-upon-Avon, Warwickshire, who told of their unhappiness about their living arrangements.
one said: 'It's awful here and there are too many problems. We don't want to be living all together in a hotel, we want a house so we can be independent.'

Speaking in the grounds of the hotel which had a multi-million-pound refurbishment before closing to paying guests five months ago, she moaned: 'No one likes living here.

'We all hate it and we are shut in our rooms all day with nothing to do. The hotel is very, very bad. We want a proper home.'

grannypiper Sun 26-Mar-23 20:02:00

MayBee70

They’re not looking for an easier life unless you count not being threatened by war an easy life. They want to work and we have this workforce unable to do so because of the inefficiency of the government departments responsible for processing them. It’s also the fault of the government that there isn’t enough housing for people or that there are unscrupulous landlords making people live in unhealthy conditions. I rather suspect that the government put them in hotels in very prominent places because it makes it easier for them to make scapegoats out of them. Turkey have taken in nearly 4 million refugees in the time that we’ve taken in 54,000. Yes, there is a problem but nowhere near the problem that it’s being made out to be because this government are using these people as scapegoats. Covid,asylum seekers, Ukraine, they’re all a smokescreen for years of mismanagement by successive governments that only care for one thing and that’s being in power for the sake of it.

The young Albanian , men housed in a town centre hotel in our town are not fleeing from war. They have made our town centre a no go area at night. Our local theatre has been hanging on by a thread, it won't last much longer as nobody will book tickets because it is right next to the theatre. The restaurants are full of empty tables. These young men roam in packs, they physically grab women and pester for sex, they scream shout and make rude gestures and the local shops wont let them in because they steal. Please do not make out that all of those arriving are wonderful lovely people, wait until your neighbourhood is blighted then comment.

volver3 Sun 26-Mar-23 20:08:34

Asylum seekers aren;' just fleeing from war. How many times do we have to say that?

Uganda is making homosexuality a capital offence, I believe. Wait for those poor souls trying to get away from that.

You're just making stuff up about how the asylum seekers behave. If they are not entitled to asylum, send them home. If they are entitled to asylum, then try to be a bit more humane when you talk about them.

Yammy Sun 26-Mar-23 20:25:37

grannypiper

MayBee70

They’re not looking for an easier life unless you count not being threatened by war an easy life. They want to work and we have this workforce unable to do so because of the inefficiency of the government departments responsible for processing them. It’s also the fault of the government that there isn’t enough housing for people or that there are unscrupulous landlords making people live in unhealthy conditions. I rather suspect that the government put them in hotels in very prominent places because it makes it easier for them to make scapegoats out of them. Turkey have taken in nearly 4 million refugees in the time that we’ve taken in 54,000. Yes, there is a problem but nowhere near the problem that it’s being made out to be because this government are using these people as scapegoats. Covid,asylum seekers, Ukraine, they’re all a smokescreen for years of mismanagement by successive governments that only care for one thing and that’s being in power for the sake of it.

The young Albanian , men housed in a town centre hotel in our town are not fleeing from war. They have made our town centre a no go area at night. Our local theatre has been hanging on by a thread, it won't last much longer as nobody will book tickets because it is right next to the theatre. The restaurants are full of empty tables. These young men roam in packs, they physically grab women and pester for sex, they scream shout and make rude gestures and the local shops wont let them in because they steal. Please do not make out that all of those arriving are wonderful lovely people, wait until your neighbourhood is blighted then comment.

I saw the same happen in parts of a city in the Northeast with an influx of Albanian men. Certain areas were suddenly no-go areas women were not safe.
They ran shops that were full of stolen goods selling them very cheaply to University students, putting genuine shops out of business.
There was a programme on the TV and a lot of their mothers were upset that they were leaving. Some are genuine but others just see a better life in England.
You are right people should wait until it affects them and then comment.

volver3 Sun 26-Mar-23 20:31:18

Anybody see the Bethany Hughes program about Albania last night?

No?

Well watch it then comment and stop being so bigoted.

ALANaV Sun 26-Mar-23 20:32:57

Then may I suggest they return from whence they came and let our homeless (lot of whom are veterans !) and our elderly who need care they cannot access , live in these lovely hotels with all found, instead !!!!!!!!!!1makes me furious at £6,000,000 a DAY which could be used to help our own first.....

volver3 Sun 26-Mar-23 20:37:02

ALANaV

Then may I suggest they return from whence they came and let our homeless (lot of whom are veterans !) and our elderly who need care they cannot access , live in these lovely hotels with all found, instead !!!!!!!!!!1makes me furious at £6,000,000 a DAY which could be used to help our own first.....

May I suggest that we process their applications at a reasonable rate, the way we used to?

May I suggest that we take a minute proportion of all the asylum seekers who are in Europe?

May I suggest that the Tories are intentionally mis-managing this to fire up the hard-of-thinking?

May I suggest that there is enough money and resources to deal with UK people and with our obligations to the rest of the world, but the Tories don't want to do it?

May I suggest you don't know what you're talking about?

Iam64 Sun 26-Mar-23 20:38:52

Volver3 👏

volver3 Sun 26-Mar-23 20:45:40

£6 million a day on hotel accommodation, that's £2 billion a year.

Amount of our money that Baroness Mone ran off with which the Tory government gave her for PPE that didn't work? £29 billion.

Cost of track and trace that didn't work? £37 billion.

Get some perspective.

MayBee70 Sun 26-Mar-23 20:56:39

Cost of the Truss/Kwarteng budget…

GagaJo Sun 26-Mar-23 21:01:26

Iam64

Volver3 👏

Me three 👏👏👏

Primrose53 Sun 26-Mar-23 21:16:05

volver3

*Asylum seekers aren;' just fleeing from war.* How many times do we have to say that?

Uganda is making homosexuality a capital offence, I believe. Wait for those poor souls trying to get away from that.

You're just making stuff up about how the asylum seekers behave. If they are not entitled to asylum, send them home. If they are entitled to asylum, then try to be a bit more humane when you talk about them.

Uganda?

choughdancer Sun 26-Mar-23 21:18:51

volver3

£6 million a day on hotel accommodation, that's £2 billion a year.

Amount of our money that Baroness Mone ran off with which the Tory government gave her for PPE that didn't work? £29 billion.

Cost of track and trace that didn't work? £37 billion.

Get some perspective.

Well said!

volver3 Sun 26-Mar-23 21:19:10

Yes, Uganda.

Oreo Sun 26-Mar-23 21:30:31

May I suggest that anyone from Albania, unless a woman or child or an actual family, is immediately sent back.Young fit men are leaving Albania and coming here to earn more money, economic migrants in other words.Germany sends them straight back, so should we.Albania is a safe country and doesn’t want to lose it’s own workforce.

Iam64 Sun 26-Mar-23 21:39:06

Primrose / we can anticipate asylum seekers from Uganda in the near future. Their govt is planning to put homosexuals to death. I’ve seen no reference to a lesbian death penalty but maybe it’s implicit
Uganda was a British protectorate till the early 1960’s so English will be a familiar languages and the UK seen as safe haven

LRavenscroft Sun 26-Mar-23 21:56:31

volver3

ALANaV

Then may I suggest they return from whence they came and let our homeless (lot of whom are veterans !) and our elderly who need care they cannot access , live in these lovely hotels with all found, instead !!!!!!!!!!1makes me furious at £6,000,000 a DAY which could be used to help our own first.....

May I suggest that we process their applications at a reasonable rate, the way we used to?

May I suggest that we take a minute proportion of all the asylum seekers who are in Europe?

May I suggest that the Tories are intentionally mis-managing this to fire up the hard-of-thinking?

May I suggest that there is enough money and resources to deal with UK people and with our obligations to the rest of the world, but the Tories don't want to do it?

May I suggest you don't know what you're talking about?

May I suggest that you show a little respect for ALANaV 's opinion about 'our homeless (lot of whom are veterans !) and our elderly who need care they cannot access , live in these lovely hotels'. Their opinion is as relevant as yours and anyone else on this board.

Iam64 Sun 26-Mar-23 21:58:17

Expressing concern for asylum seekers doesn’t exclude having concern for homeless people or veterans

MerylStreep Sun 26-Mar-23 21:59:51

Albania. I imagine Bethany only showed the nice area’s.
Did she show the mammoth cannabis fields, the awful Roma ghettos.
I don’t suppose she mentioned how terrible racist they are towards the Roma.

www.vocativ.com/money/breadline/roma-albania-life-trash-heap/index.html

volver3 Sun 26-Mar-23 22:10:17

MerylStreep

Albania. I imagine Bethany only showed the nice area’s.
Did she show the mammoth cannabis fields, the awful Roma ghettos.
I don’t suppose she mentioned how terrible racist they are towards the Roma.

www.vocativ.com/money/breadline/roma-albania-life-trash-heap/index.html

Yeah, we saw Hoxha's 170,000 nuclear bunkers, they were so nice.

volver3 Sun 26-Mar-23 22:12:10

LRavenscroft

volver3

ALANaV

Then may I suggest they return from whence they came and let our homeless (lot of whom are veterans !) and our elderly who need care they cannot access , live in these lovely hotels with all found, instead !!!!!!!!!!1makes me furious at £6,000,000 a DAY which could be used to help our own first.....

May I suggest that we process their applications at a reasonable rate, the way we used to?

May I suggest that we take a minute proportion of all the asylum seekers who are in Europe?

May I suggest that the Tories are intentionally mis-managing this to fire up the hard-of-thinking?

May I suggest that there is enough money and resources to deal with UK people and with our obligations to the rest of the world, but the Tories don't want to do it?

May I suggest you don't know what you're talking about?

May I suggest that you show a little respect for ALANaV 's opinion about 'our homeless (lot of whom are veterans !) and our elderly who need care they cannot access , live in these lovely hotels'. Their opinion is as relevant as yours and anyone else on this board.

Ah, not the "opinion vs facts" chat again...

😉

MaizieD Sun 26-Mar-23 23:00:56

'Opinions' aren't sacred words that must never be challenged. I don't know why people think they are...

Jackiest Mon 27-Mar-23 01:27:52

May I suggest we show care and respect to everyone no matter where they were born, what race they are or what colour they are.

Biscuitmuncher Mon 27-Mar-23 02:07:29

Cry me a river, no one asked them to come here. If it's so terrible where they lived why do they leave their women there? So what we have to do is dig up our countryside to build them homes!

volver3 Mon 27-Mar-23 08:21:33

I'm not often speechless, yet here we are...

Anniebach Mon 27-Mar-23 08:25:36

Miracles do happen