Lilibet

I wonder why the aunt and uncles didn't get an invite to the wedding? Seems a shame, I bet her mum would have liked her sister with her.

maybe they couldn't afford to go? Not all families are close either, it doesn't necessarily mean they are estranged

I agree JaneJudge that Meghan’s father’s side of the family do not sound wonderful, but it’s a shame her father couldn’t go to her wedding. It’s very unusual for a person getting married to invite only one family member, but that in itself would not have been so strange if all the celebrities were not there. But they were!

I thought her Dad was invited but was ill?

You seem determined that they’re not estranged JaneJudge. So instead let’s say they have nothing whatsoever to do with one another.

I think her father was invited to begin with, but then uninvited after the suit and press thing. The man was silly, he should never have done that. It seems likely that the stress of the invited/uninvited saga, and the suit and press sage, that the poor man developed heart problems that put him in hospital, so he couldn’t have gone even if he was still invited. Meghan then estranged him. I feel sorry for him because he was foolish and didn’t understand what he was getting into.

I am not determined I just find it difficult to understand why people cannot accept people have different family dynamics to their own. It isn't necessarily an estrangement. I realise it is in her Fathers family's case. Maybe we have differing views on what counts as an estrangement though

Since my sister completely estranged her entire family for seven years (mental health problems, now much better with treatment) I think I know exactly what estrangement is. It is having nothing whatsoever to do with someone. I think there’s a modern word nowadays that may describe it, ghosting. Maybe you have a different view.

I am estranged from my biological Father and his family, if that helps. Ghosting is just ignoring someone isn't it?

“ Read this morning, Diana’ wedding dress is now on display,
a sign read it was with permission of HRH the Duke of Cambridge and HRH the Duke of Sussex, the sign has now been change to - HRH the Duke of Cambridge and the Duke of
Sussex”

Well that should make you happy everyone ? Yes ?

Why would it make anyone happy Lucca. The whole situation is unbearably sad for the royal family, and difficult to observe for many of the rest of us.

I’m so sorry about the situation with your father JaneJudge. As I have also experienced estrangement I know how awful it is, unless of course there has been abuse, then of course it’s different. I was very distressed when my sister estranged her whole family. I lost touch with my niece and nephews who I loved, and I found the whole situation very difficult. We didn’t know until the estrangement was over that my sister had been mentally ill.
You could be right about ghosting, maybe it is just ignoring someone, although that must still be difficult to bear if it’s a beloved family member or a dear friend. It doesn’t seem to be much different than estrangement really does it?

Read this morning, Diana’ wedding dress is now on display,

I thought it was already as I remember seeing it at Althorp a while ago, Lucca.

I went to a Diana's dresses at Kensinguon Palace a few years back. I love fashion and fabrics. I was surprised to see how wide she was on the shoulders, (not just shoulder pads!). I'm guessing this was because she was a swimmer. A bit like Monaco's Charlene in stature.

Callistemon

^Read this morning, Diana’ wedding dress is now on display,^

I thought it was already as I remember seeing it at Althorp a while ago, Lucca.

I’ve no idea but someone posted about the HRH. But being removed and I just assumed posters would be pleased?Just an impression I get ….

Ah, yes, I see.
Serves me right for skim reading!

I think ghosting is when someone just abruptly starts blanking you and you don't know why.
Estrangement can be after a fall out.

Piers Morgan accuses MM of ghosting him. But MM is estranged from her father after falling out.

Very happy to learn of the arrival of Harry and Meghan's daughter. Genuinely delighted for them ! However Lilibet!!!? So not right , a very personal name of the Queen . I feel as though they have stolen it from her. Why not Elizabeth if they wanted to honour her great Grandma! They could then call her Lili. Not sure what their motives were for choosing Lilibet. Rumour has it they asked the Queens permission- not too sure about that. I do wish them every happiness in their new life and wish them all good health.

No one would ever wish anything for a newborn child other than a happy and healthy life.

maddyone

Why would it make anyone happy Lucca. The whole situation is unbearably sad for the royal family, and difficult to observe for many of the rest of us.

I’m so sorry about the situation with your father JaneJudge. As I have also experienced estrangement I know how awful it is, unless of course there has been abuse, then of course it’s different. I was very distressed when my sister estranged her whole family. I lost touch with my niece and nephews who I loved, and I found the whole situation very difficult. We didn’t know until the estrangement was over that my sister had been mentally ill.
You could be right about ghosting, maybe it is just ignoring someone, although that must still be difficult to bear if it’s a beloved family member or a dear friend. It doesn’t seem to be much different than estrangement really does it?

I ass use that people would be pleased at the removal of HRH that’s all. That’s the impression I get from these threads.

Assume. Assume. Assume. Stupid I pad.

JaneJudge

maybe they couldn't afford to go? Not all families are close either, it doesn't necessarily mean they are estranged

That is even sadder if they couldn't afford to go, very rich niece marrying very very rich man. Surely they could have helped them if that was the case. I think it would be a very distant aunt who'd refuse a trip to London and such an amazing event if she was invited.

I guess everyone is different. Her mother just looked a bit lonely at times and you'd think her sister would have been a bit of company and someone to share it all with.

I'm not sure anyone really stops to check the tickets showing who has donated the dresses anyway, let alone their titles, so I can't comment.
What was interesting to me were Diana's own sketches of how she wanted the outfits to look.

I should have checked first. Doria has half siblings so maybe that makes a difference although half siblings can be close.

I agree with you theworriedwell, I thought Doria looked very lonely at the wedding. I felt sorry for her having to face all that on her own. I wouldn’t have liked it and I live here. What it was like for a lady from another country that doesn’t have the institution of royalty I can only guess, but she was so dignified despite being so alone. I was nervous just being the bride’s mother and being the last to enter the church before the bride, with all those eyes on me. I’m glad I only had one daughter and won’t have to do that again. I imagine Doria must feel the same. But to have the eyes of the world on her, she was very brave.

theworriedwell

I should have checked first. Doria has half siblings so maybe that makes a difference although half siblings can be close.

They are in their 70s as well, maybe they felt they couldn't travel or cope with such a situation? I don't think I could in all honesty.