David Lammy on LBC

David Lammy is a very intelligent, highly articulate guy
He was extremely patient and polite
Jean on the other hand. ...
While people of Jean's ilk; the nationalists, the extreme right wing, the hard of thinking, have been encouraged by this present regime and even feel comfortable airing their vitriol is extremely worrying
Very poor show Jean
I am embarrassed for you

Shocking.

What a dreadful woman.

And what is this business of being British but not English?

David Lammy reacted very well.

Really impressed with David Lammy. He never got rattled and was so composed and polite throughout. Polluting.........what a vile way to speak. You'll never change entrenched views like hers.

I heard her too! How very ignorant and bigoted. Anyone born in the UK is British and depending on your birth place can be one of four ‘nationalities’ if you go for that sort of thing.

Personally, I feel English as all my ancestors prior to me except one were born in the south east of England and East Midlands. Further back, my ancestors originated in Germany (south and east Saxons). Even further back my genetic group moved across Europe from the Near East (the eastern Mediterranean). BTW, this is from Living DNA (Ancestry shows marginally different results)

We all were at one time migrants.

There is plenty of this out there it seems.
My son sent me this:

youtu.be/epi6-zDCwIg

I have a lot of time for David Lammy, he is a great orator and has given some moving speeches in Parliament.

My daughter has met him twice too. I was shocked at the call. Really taken aback. He handled it so well and really tried to explain to her in polite terms.

She's Anglo Saxon apparently, right back to the middle ages. Dearie me.

I don't think anybody here needs to be ashamed, only she does.

I'm only half " English", 38% German, the rest Scottish with Irish thrown in----with Jewish ancestry.

I bet "Mrs Pratt", whoever she was is no English Rose

I'm white English too, with a family tree traced back to the mid sixteenth century. She doesn't speak for me, so I don't feel ashamed.

Jean is actually deluded if she thinks that she can trace all the lines of her family back to the middle ages. The lack of records makes it impossible, unless you happen to be nobility.

Her views are horrible and I feel deeply deeply ashamed to be white British (English actually) with people like this espousing such predjudice and bigotry.

Asside from the Pollution word!!!...
What kind or argument is it that he can be British but not English! There isn't even any logic here.

Horrendous.

Marcus Rashford has scored 11 goals for the England football team. I wonder if Jean would like to tell him he's been playing in the wrong team.

Goodness me---daft old bat ! Where ignorance is bliss----

welbeck I expect we've all come across them. Sometimes I do wonder if some of the posters on GN are like that in real life.

Polluting!? I have no words. How he kept his cool I don’t know.

I haven't a clue who she is, but she didn't sound muddled in her thinking, but very bigoted with racist views which won't be shifted, however rationally one argues with her. She's probably been like that her whole life and her views have little to do with her age. Lammy actually said that he didn't want to offend her.

and there you have it; a mixture of ignorance and misplaced pride.
unfortunately there are still numerous people who think like this, but most don't reveal it so openly.
i have met white women who while presenting as nice, friendly, in fact look down on anyone of another hue or culture or irish or jewish origin, or people in council housing. and then try to justify it. i would rather avoid them, but it is tricky if they have become needy through infirmity. i feel i have to help, a little.

I wonder how that woman would describe Lammy's children. His wife is white British (English?)

Well done, David Lammy, for keeping your cool. Well argued.

I agree with you varian. I honestly don't know how Lammy didn't lose his cool.

Anniebach

Did she give her age ?

No, but she didn't deny that she's older than Lammy. I'm more concerned about what she said rather than trying to guess her age.

Did she give her age ?

The way David Lammy spoke to this caller was a model of restraint. He has gone up in my estimation. Unfortunately I think there are many other ignorant bigoted old women like her-I hope not on GN.