A big thank you to those who voted for Brexit

I cannot answer for my suppliers, but we have placed orders (I am using the royal we as I haven’t physically been into the office since March 2020) since opening after the holidays, had confirmation of said orders and delivery predictions only a couple of days longer than 2020.

It will be interesting to hear more as the year progresses.

Whitewavemark2

It will be interesting to hear more as the year progresses.

I totally agree with you on that.

A voice of reason GG13 thank you for your very timely posts! That’ll shut them up.

Joke.
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Oh varian I’m sorry to disappoint but we (everybody - suppliers + customers) were being warned as far back as early October that there would be ‘bumps in the road’.

Things will sort themselves out we just have to have a bit of patience. And faith. Which I have and most of you don’t. You don’t have businesses either. But you do get very het up.

Even on DAY 8.

I have already come a cropper to Brexit.
One of my cancer medications is no longer available so it has been substituted by a more generic one which is causing me many unpleasant side effects.

dragonfly46

I have already come a cropper to Brexit.
One of my cancer medications is no longer available so it has been substituted by a more generic one which is causing me many unpleasant side effects.

I feel desperate for folk like yourself. The children with severe epilepsy are suffering so unnecessarily.

Meanwhile the leavers sit back and enjoy their sovereignty.

I don’t ‘sit back’ and enjoy anybody’s ill health WW. That was a pretty insensitive remark.

I’m very sorry indeed dragonfly to hear your change of medication is causing you to have side effects.

When we buy a branded drug like Neurofen which is expensive, we are reassured to be told that generic ibuprofen works just as well. We are paying the branded firm for their advertising costs etc.

I wonder what your doctor thinks?

I hope you get it sorted soon. I’m genuinely sorry you are struggling.

Urmstongran

I don’t ‘sit back’ and enjoy anybody’s ill health WW. That was a pretty insensitive remark.

I’m very sorry indeed dragonfly to hear your change of medication is causing you to have side effects.

When we buy a branded drug like Neurofen which is expensive, we are reassured to be told that generic ibuprofen works just as well. We are paying the branded firm for their advertising costs etc.

I wonder what your doctor thinks?

I hope you get it sorted soon. I’m genuinely sorry you are struggling.

Read what my post said.

But saying that did you believe at the time of your voter leave that very sick people would struggle as a result of your vote?

Meanwhile I wish you well as you enjoy your sovereignty

No I didn’t think that at all WW.

Plus the Remain campaign did not say that would be the outcome if we didn’t vote ‘their’ way.
I do recall a poster who regularly told us about isotope shortages but has never mentioned it since so I presume that hasn’t happened either?

I genuinely do not believe our government would jeopardise our health. Negotiations on medicines will have taken place over many months. Nothing in the news about adverse outcomes?

Whitewavemark2 if the EU decides not to export medication to countries who are not part of their club then surely the anger should be directed towards them?

I shall wait to see if my usual medication is awaiting for me in February (all produced in the EU)

My son sold a football programme for £5 on eBay to someone living in Spain. He had to print off a custom declaration, spend 5 minutes filling it in and stick it on the envelope. No one will read it and it is a complete waste of time, not mention energy and paper. Imagine that kerfuffle multiplied millions of times by all sorts of traders. No wonder business person will stop bothering .

You are both way off the mark. Blaming others for the result if your vote simply doesn’t cut it.

Leavers were warned and warned of the consequences.

GrannyGravy13

Whitewavemark2 if the EU decides not to export medication to countries who are not part of their club then surely the anger should be directed towards them?

I shall wait to see if my usual medication is awaiting for me in February (all produced in the EU)

You post shows that you still don’t understand. For heavens sake!! Your vote has caused real and existential problems.

UG posts-

"Oh varian I’m sorry to disappoint but we (everybody - suppliers + customers) were being warned as far back as early October that there would be ‘bumps in the road’. Things will sort themselves out we just have to have a bit of patience. And faith. Which I have and most of you don’t. You don’t have businesses either. "

A bit presumptious, and totally fallacious, UG to assume that no-one who did not support brexit has a business. Just look at the record.

The CBI and the small business organisations and all of our our professional associations were, and still are, totally opposed to your brexit nonsense.

If the U.K. decides to opt out of a club in order not to abide by the club rules or pay the membership fee they can’t expect the club to provide the same services.

The CBI have great form in getting their analyses wrong. Wise people discount their predictions.

The CBI, the TUC, the Bank of England, our universities and research bodies, all of our trade and professional organisations- all supported Remaining in the EU. - in other words the "experts" that Gove told the guillible leave voters to despise.

Just imagine where we might be now without the experts who developed the covid vaccine - would you rather just rely on Gove and the rest of the Vote Leave liars?

Your scattergun attack is exhausting to even try to unpick varian.

Some of it is very old ground which at the time I commented upon fully, to the best of my own research abilities. Check out my historic posts if you can be bothered.

Now?
No thanks. I’m not going over it ad nauseam. Too boring for those reading this thread.

Brexit is DONE.
We are out of the EU jurisdictions (well most of them).

It’s time to move on.

P.s. it isn’t ‘ALL’ either. As you well know. Such hyperbole.

Urmstongran

No I didn’t think that at all WW.

Plus the Remain campaign did not say that would be the outcome if we didn’t vote ‘their’ way.
I do recall a poster who regularly told us about isotope shortages but has never mentioned it since so I presume that hasn’t happened either?

I genuinely do not believe our government would jeopardise our health. Negotiations on medicines will have taken place over many months. Nothing in the news about adverse outcomes?

I really don’t know where you get the patience.As you say earlier, we are only 8 days in.
All the hate directed at voters who voted to leave the EU is sickening...... particularly from ( presumably)mature women.

U.K. Gov’s demand that external companies have to register with HMRC, and pay VAT in advance, is key reason many won’t now sell to individuals in U.K.
#BrexitShambles

Oh gosh Urmstongran you don’t need to apologise to me. You are not responsible. It is what it is. My glass is always half full and I am sure these problems will be ironed out. Just a bit down at the moment.

It’s dispiriting isn’t it lemongrove. Wears me down after a bit.

So, I turned instead to read an article in the Guardian on happiness.

This sentence jumped out at me - coming straight from this gloomy thread -

“The research shows we make happiness mistakes all the time: we complain too much, thinking we’re letting off steam, but do so at the cost of noticing the good things in life.”

Just about summed it up for me tonight.

Thank you dragonfly for saying that. It means a lot especially as, at present, you have more to be upset about than most on here right now.

I hope your symptoms subside as they can’t be pleasant and may well be upsetting. I also hope your doctor can offer you an alternative or some reassurance going forward. x

dragonfly I would like to reiterate what Urmstongran has posted