Student and Christmas

So lock up the oldies and let the virus run its course amongst the rest of the population?
That's acually more logical than lock up students which seems to be the present policy. but actually I would ask all people to be more conscious of their social responsibilities. I read today that Asian students don't want to come to the UK because we don't routinely wear masks. They regard the wearing of masks as a social responsibility and that's the crux of the matter that we no longer regard social responsibility as something essential. We've bred a society where the personal is more important.

M0nica

There are a lot of nasty and unpleasant remarks about those now at university.

I can never understand anyone who because they have suffered or another group have suffered should want to inflict that same suffering on others.

I agree with this.

I don’t know why students are being scapegoated for this when the evidence in Scotland is that they’re responsible for a very small proportion of law-breaking. According to Police Scotland, illegal partying is taking place across all communities and all age groups.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-54323354

How do you know it would be only a handful? And I suspect it would be a pretty miserable time for those students and their families-isolated and suffering from a horrible illness. Paints a bleak sad picture.

I have equal sympathy for the students and the older groups. It’s not finite.

This is terrible for all of us.

trisher

^So lock up the oldies and let the virus run its course amongst the rest of the population?^
That's acually more logical than lock up students which seems to be the present policy. but actually I would ask all people to be more conscious of their social responsibilities. I read today that Asian students don't want to come to the UK because we don't routinely wear masks. They regard the wearing of masks as a social responsibility and that's the crux of the matter that we no longer regard social responsibility as something essential. We've bred a society where the personal is more important.

My point is that the ICU doctor from a Welsh hospital, when interviewed on tv, has just made it clear that, although many people think that younger people will not suffer badly if they catch this virus, some will. They now have younger people with the virus in their ICU.

I don't understand why most went back when I understand that most courses online anyway [I know there are some exceptions] It was obvious a second wave was on the way. Why did they not stay home

Many were told they must go back to university, that learning remotely wasn’t an option.

As soon as they did that, some were then told they couldn’t leave their accommodation, with security guards on the door. Lawyers in Scotland are now questioning whether these students have been unlawfully detained.

I’ve been hearing dreadful stories of some overseas students in particular not receiving food for days at a time.

It’s a shocking way to treat people.

And to add insult to injury make them pay thousands to be incarcerated!

Yes, they have been told that 100% remote learning isn't an option. They were also told that their offers wouldn't necessarily be honoured if they were freshers and that returners had to have a medical reason to defer.

Apparently, the insistence that there would be face-to-face teaching was to satisfy the visa requirements of overseas students, even though it isn't always happening.

In Scotland, there's the additional issue that freshers are younger than in England and universities are in "loco parentis" of 17 year olds.