Andrew MW ‘s shiner

A lot to pay out though wasn't it?
If it wasn't for silence, why pay such a lot?

Silence for one year

It's also disgusting that Beatrice and Eugenie accompanied their mother to meet Epstein to beg for more money. After, I think, he'd first been found guilty. They are both adults so surprised they chose to meet him. Perhaps that's why some of the royal family are ostracizing them.

Depends on how old they were at the time.

Would his 'being found guilty' at that time be at all obvious?
He was out and about, and still running his empire, while serving that sentence.

Hopefully it was his ex, Sarah, who belted him. He's been known to be very verbally abusive to her over the years, including calling her a fat cow in front of dinner guests, but she's right-handed, as is her Eugenie.

Someone would be a left-hander to do that on his right, so possibly Princess Beatrix, who is a leftie!

Whoever did it, human or horse, it was VERY well deserved!

Maremia, I think they were 19 and 21! Old enough to say NO to mummy dragging them along!

Yes B and E were nineteen and twenty years old when they, and their mother had lunch with Epstein in the US just a matter of days after he had been released from prison. Extraordinary.

Was there much in the news about Epstein at the time the daughters were 19 /20 ?

Anniebach

Was there much in the news about Epstein at the time the daughters were 19 /20 ?

You’d think having been locked up would have given them the heads up.

I don’t know what they knew of Epstein almost 20 years ago

That he was a convicted paedophile.

Their parents knew Epstein had been imprisoned (he was given first a jail work-release programme and then house arrest): days after Epstein’s house arrest ended in 2010 Andrew emailed him: “How are you? Good to be free?”
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/feb/01/key-revelations-latest-epstein-files-release-andrew-sarah-ferguson?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Would they really not have told their daughters before Sarah took them to see him?

You have more trust in the parents than I

But he wasn't actually locked up though was he?
Don't know how aware they would have been.
When did we, this side of the pond, start to take notice?

He was locked up some of the time.

//After serving fewer than four months in jail, Epstein was granted a special arrangement that allowed him to leave custody for up to 16 hours a day, six days a week, as part of a work release program …

This continued for the next nine months until his release to a year of supervised house arrest in July 2009.//
www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey-epstein-plea-deal-jail-term-doj-files/

There wasn’t a lot in the UK news about it. The Guardian reported it.

Anniebach

You have more trust in the parents than I

That’s strange, as you think Andrew is being demonised and I don’t.

I have a low opinion of Andrew and Sarah. But I still think they might have told their daughters Epstein had been in prison before Sarah took them to visit him. If they didn’t, that would have been quite deceptive.

Skye 17, I’d go further and tell my daughters they could not see him an we’d break our friendship because of his conviction, he admitted that crime but could have been charged with ma ny more

Me too. I’d never want to be friends with someone after that.

Skye I don’t know if he is guilty or not guilty,you think Him guilty

Annie, what do you think Skye (and possibly me) believe AMW to be guilty of. Or more simply, what are you unsure he might / might not, be guilty of?