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Pushchair set alight in Golders Green flats.

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Betony Wed 03-Jun-26 18:07:17

What have things come to? The London Evening Standard has reported this afternoon what appears to be another arson attack in Golders Green. This time setting light to a pushchair parked in a block of flats where many young Jewish families live. Here's the cut and paste from the article which left me speechless: 'The Met Police said officers were keeping an open mind as to the man's motive'. I'm putting this on Chat because I'm so shocked, I don't really know where to post this.

Maremia Sat 13-Jun-26 08:45:48

That's good to hear ronib.
The thing is too, you don't have to be a 'believer" to enjoy festivals from other faiths and cultures.
Look at how may enjoy the fun and fuss around Christmas, who are not Christian.
Celebrate the joy, work through the difference.

ronib Sat 13-Jun-26 08:34:42

Looking at two of my grandchildren’s school week, I was excited to see a trip by coach to the local theatre. I also noticed the very strong emphasis on kindness and respect for others in the school curriculum. This school has very strong neighbourhood support and offers a great start to every child.

Chocolatelovinggran Sat 13-Jun-26 08:14:11

Thank you for responding ronib. Hopefully, your thoughts on neighborhood initiatives might beat fruit.
We have much in common, as my father, the son of an immigrant, was also very poorly educated ( TBF there was a war on !) set great store by education and was very excited by my degree. He was a kind and thoughtful man, who challenged prejudice. I will think of him very fondly later this year when my daughter collects her PhD.

Iam64 Fri 12-Jun-26 16:49:51

The Prevent programme alongside criminalising hate speech etc are some ways governments try to address racism in action
Look at the criticism of our police for its attempts to train officers in equality diversity inclusion
I’ve been involved in such training ~ toughest sessions we did
Yes home is where real influence happens and school, workplaces friendship groups

ronib Fri 12-Jun-26 16:28:27

Chocolatelovinggran Forgot to say that I was educated at an all girls convent school. Yes looking back to my own family, my father who was a very uneducated man, absolutely forbade any kind of discrimination or unkindness towards minority groups. I think as an immigrant himself, he had experienced discrimination especially during the war.

Yes you are right- the home has a huge influence on children’s attitudes- but there must be ways to counteract that influence. To some extent, my local neighbourhood certainly influenced an emphasis on educational achievement which was missing in the home. Three children with degrees was quite good for those days. Arguably neighbourhood can influence attitudes?

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 12-Jun-26 16:08:27

I understand your post ronib, and am horrified to hear that you received such a negative message about Jews in relation to the crucifixion.
I agree absolutely about the importance of mixed faith activities, but, of course, many people have no faith, so would not participate in these.
Do you have any thoughts, ronib, as to where we could spend money to achieve a desired outcome?
Please accept that this is not meant in any way disrespectful, but I fear that any negative attitudes towards Jews/ women/ migrants/ travellers are perpetuated in the home, and I cannot think of any way to counteract this.
I am a retired teacher, and have challenged small children repeating the language of hate towards others, but doubt my impact on their parent's mindset.

Maremia Fri 12-Jun-26 15:46:27

Yes, mixed faith activities are to be commended.
Sharing of festivals.

ronib Fri 12-Jun-26 15:34:19

Chocolatelovingran. I have inadvertently noticed that even on GNet, there is a reluctance to embrace a rules based order. If the older population is less inclined to follow fairly simple courtesies, I have to ask why the younger generations would.
When I was growing up in a mixed faith neighbourhood, I can remember Christian theology going very full on about the role of the Jews in the crucifixion. This did not mean that I ever attempted to set fire to a buggy in a Jewish community. I think schools could play a strong role in bringing about mixed faith activities if possible.
I think it would be an improvement if any government would recognise that there is a fundamental problem in attitudes to Jews living in the UK. £25 million won’t make the problem disappear.

Chocolatelovinggran Fri 12-Jun-26 15:22:53

Do we know who did this terrible act, and why?
Could you suggest what governments might do to tackle anti semitism, ronib?
Sadly, I feel that this is a mindset, which is difficult to change at a political level, it must come from the home .

ronib Fri 12-Jun-26 11:55:13

We can argue about the millions provided in funding by the government to enable Jewish volunteers to secure synagogues and residential areas but … who is going to tackle the root causes of anti Semitism? Isn’t this a failure in government policy?

twaddle Fri 12-Jun-26 10:25:08

I'm another who doesn't think it's true that there's been a complete breakdown of law and order.

Basgetti Fri 12-Jun-26 10:16:00

ronib

Isn’t that because there’s a complete breakdown of law and order in the UK now? Jewish communities are having to organise themselves for protection which should be provided by the State. Iam64

I don’t think that’s true, ronib.

NannaFirework Fri 12-Jun-26 09:32:13

What is wrong with ‘people’ well those who do such cowardly ugly acts are monsters.
That poor Mother - imagine how you would feel.
Why can’t we be kind to each other - it’s 💔

ronib Thu 04-Jun-26 21:13:31

Isn’t that because there’s a complete breakdown of law and order in the UK now? Jewish communities are having to organise themselves for protection which should be provided by the State. Iam64

Iam64 Thu 04-Jun-26 21:09:54

Well that’s your view ronib
My experience of Jewish friends is to dismiss the Holocaust as 80 years ago so cheetham hill/Prestwich has moved on is a long way from the truth. The few remaining survivors are keeping a go bag by the door and talking of going to Israel because they don’t feel safe any more

ronib Thu 04-Jun-26 21:04:03

Why does a Holocaust denier feel the need to set fire to a child’s pushchair? The Holocaust was almost 80 years ago. Golders Green has moved on. Iam64

Iam64 Thu 04-Jun-26 20:58:17

ronib

How does this translate into burning a child’s pushchair? Iam64

I don’t understand your question

Cossy Thu 04-Jun-26 16:34:11

ronib

How does this translate into burning a child’s pushchair? Iam64

I find this a pretty horrifying thing to do!

ronib Thu 04-Jun-26 16:28:45

How does this translate into burning a child’s pushchair? Iam64

Iam64 Thu 04-Jun-26 16:20:57

Many anti semites are also holocaust deniers

rowyn Thu 04-Jun-26 16:15:27

Maybe we should remind the world of what happened to many Jewish people during the war. I'm pretty sure that the perpetrators of these crimes have absolutely NO idea.

ronib Thu 04-Jun-26 16:08:46

I would expect lots of surveillance cameras plastered over Golders Green by now. I hope the local police can make some attempt to track down the culprits. Asap.

petra Thu 04-Jun-26 16:01:40

Iam64

Sounds like a hate crime to me. There was a news item earlier about a junior football team with many Jewish players who arrived to fund their opponents with free Palestine on their sleeves

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, its a duck
The anti semites been parking across the driveway of known Jews.
When the police are called miraculously the car comes to life.

Iam64 Thu 04-Jun-26 15:49:09

Sounds like a hate crime to me. There was a news item earlier about a junior football team with many Jewish players who arrived to fund their opponents with free Palestine on their sleeves

ordinarygirl Thu 04-Jun-26 15:32:24

It may be a racial crime but it could be similar to those people who steal wheelchairs and adapted vehicles for the disabled. People who put graffiti on buildings etc Some warped minds think things are "funny" . I'm a vegan and often find people have put packs of meat next to vegan products. Again they think it is funny.
Unless people are causing harm they are not happy .