Ethical question - how do you feel about second chance??

If any of you went to see the play “ Punch” you would recognise that a second chance can be very beneficial to the community.
Or how Jimmy Boyle turned his life around after completing his sentence and has written astounding plays.

I believe we all have boundaries that we'd be unwilling or unble to put to one side.

For dog lovers, would you be happy for someone who had tortured their dog to death to look after yours for a weekend?

If not, why?

I definitely wouldn't judge someone in the fact they'd just got out of prison, although I draw the line at sex offenders of any kind. People end up in prison for lots of reasons and they've done their tone. I'd judge them in their current and future behaviour.

If people draw the line, though, that means they are judging.
Just deciding whoch crimes are forgivable and which are not.

I think everyone needs to know they have a second chance. But some need greater supervision and support and rehabilitation. Sadly this is lacking in prisons and after release.

MissAdventure

I believe we all have boundaries that we'd be unwilling or unble to put to one side.

For dog lovers, would you be happy for someone who had tortured their dog to death to look after yours for a weekend?

If not, why?

I believe we all have boundaries that we'd be unwilling or unble to put to one side.

I think that's true Miss A.

Torturers and rapists - especially those who hurt and abuse babies and children... yes, and animals - are not those I would willingly interact with.

I do believe it's worth attempting to rehabilitate them via whatever systems and programmes exist (of which I admit I no zilch), but I don't want to be a part of their community. I might have been, without knowing it, but that's a different argument.

Selfish? Yes, of course. I might be influenced by the TV programme I watched recently. I can't recall the name, Louis Theroux was investigating the case of a girl abducted and repeatedly raped and abused. The utter depravity of these men, not to mention the effect it had on those investigating, is something that I can't forget and it still lingers in my mind.

I don't pretend to have the answers to the question(s) of how these men - and it is mostly men - are integrated back into society. There may be exceptions, but I'm not sure they can ever be rehabilitated into 'normal' society, rather any real remorse would compel them to some form of atonement. I don't know, I just know I don't want to be any part of their world, these men fill me with awful dread and fear.

lixy

A friend of mine has been a prison visitor for many years, and consequently I have met people who have been released.

I agree that a second chance is a good thing but it needs to be properly supported in a positive way. Too often people arrive out of gaol to find their world is upside-down, even after a shortish sentence.

I always use Timpsons for watch repairs and keys for that very reason. They actively support ex-offenders.

stopped using Timpsons for keys years ago because of that very reason. Plus they started taking the Mickey big time on prices.

Saw the boss of Timpsons being interviewed on our local TV news.
He seemed to think the ex Cocaine Dealers were the best employees..
They had thee right attributes

Make of that what you will.

The Timpson family are imo, too. E thanked and admired for their commitment to supporting vulnerable people. As well as their stores where ex offenders are employed, they fostered many children. The care they gave was excellent. Mts Timpson was also compassionate and avoiding judgement of the birth mothers

I've always been pleased with any purchases and the service received in Timpson shops. The male staff are not young and are usually cheerful and friendly.

I've no problem at all with being served by an ex offender in a shop.

foxie48

I totally agree Gwyllt prison is the punishment and offenders deserve a chance to get on with their lives and put their crime behind them. There are checks in place to ensure that sex offenders are not employed in certain roles or have easy access to children etc and I think we should also give them a chance of restitution. I listened to a radio programme recently about the work that is being done with sex offenders and it was helpful to me hearing their stories. Many sex offenders have been abused themselves as children.

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Galaxy

Certainly when my children were young, I did not allow them to go to a house where there was a variety of criminal behaviour, the child was very welcome at our house.
In terms of child abuse material , they will offend again.

That’s simply common sense and being a good parent, I would have done the same.

Criminal behavior? It all depends on the offence, doesnt it? Stealing a slab of beef and getting put in prison is not the same as raping a child and getting a second chance. Your comparisons are not compatiblè.