The reform party has agreed to continue the triple lock

Imagine a thread like that, where everybody said which party they were going to vote for and offered no commentary or rationale. What a yawn.

Many older voters will vote Reform and changing the triple lock would loose them votes, do not dismiss the threat posed by Farage. As for election promises they are not worth the paper they are written on by any party

If Starmer has poor results in the May elections and a loony left leader is elected that will boost Reform votes at the next GE.

Farage is the last person I would vote for, many others, will

Who on earth is this ‘loony left’ successor to replace Starmer you are referring to David49, I’m racking my brains here?

David49

Many older voters will vote Reform and changing the triple lock would loose them votes, do not dismiss the threat posed by Farage. As for election promises they are not worth the paper they are written on by any party

If Starmer has poor results in the May elections and a loony left leader is elected that will boost Reform votes at the next GE.

Farage is the last person I would vote for, many others, will

Hmm a loony left leader, and earlier we were discussing derogatory name calling with regard to Reform voters. Thanks for showing that it works both ways.

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Meandrogrog

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Meandrogrog

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Oreo

There’s no need to justify yourself on here, you and millions of others will vote Reform when the time comes and whatever happens is the result of democracy.😃

That's what happened in Germany in 1933 - so that's OK then.

I have seen this so many times, comparing Reform to Nazi Germany, its so predictable and boring.

Maybe because it's relevant. Oreo wrote of democracy. The Nazis were legitimately and democratically elected. How is that not relevant? People who dismiss historical fact say a lot about themselves.

What is the connection between Nazi Germany and Reform because I fail to see it.

The connection is democracy. Oreo claimed if Reform get to form a government, it's fine because it would be the result of democracy. All I did was point out that the Nazis came to power in 1933 as the result of democracy.

I can't really explain it any more simply. If you still don't understand, I suggest you do some research into the 1930s.

Any other connection is fantasy or wishful thinking on your part.

Still dont get the link, I suspect you dont either.

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Meandrogrog

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Cossy

Meandrogrog

I will vote for them anyway. I am not going to justify myself on this forum, sufficient to say I hope they can bring the change needed to this country, stopping illegal immigration and taking the UK out of the EU properly. I do not wish to have a great leftie pile on please.

You’re doing the very thing you accuse others of doing.

One doesn’t have to be a “leftie” to not wish to vote for Reform.

I’m just interested, if you’re able/willing to respond, just exactly “how” Reform will prevent Asylum Seekers entering the Country illegally, and why on earth you feel we, as the UK, should further distance ourselves from those sharing our continent and our closest allies and neighbours?

What am I doing Cossy which is the very thing I am accusing others of doing? I was not aware I was being accusing, just that I do not wish to be attacked by vociferous Reform hating posters. Please do not describe me as being accusing as this is unfair and untrue.

But it's not untrue! You did do exactly the same as you were claiming others were doing. We have eyes and we can see.

Please could you tell me exactly what I accused others of?

No, because it's obvious and I believe you're being deliberately obtuse.

It is genuinely not obvious to me, and I suspect you are being accusatory but not able to back it up.

Will Reform be able to take the UK out of the ECHR, which everyone says is the only way to stop illegal migration? What are GranNetters' thoughts?

Try googling ‘why is Reform UK compared to Nazi Germany’ Meandrogrog, then you will see the reasons for the comparison. There are plenty of articles from different publications online.

David49

Many older voters will vote Reform and changing the triple lock would loose them votes, do not dismiss the threat posed by Farage. As for election promises they are not worth the paper they are written on by any party

If Starmer has poor results in the May elections and a loony left leader is elected that will boost Reform votes at the next GE.

Farage is the last person I would vote for, many others, will

If Starmer has poor results in the May elections and a loony left leader is elected that will boost Reform votes at the next GE.

I'm confused. There is not a General Election in May nor a leadership election

Casdon

Try googling ‘why is Reform UK compared to Nazi Germany’ Meandrogrog, then you will see the reasons for the comparison. There are plenty of articles from different publications online.

Reform & Nazi Germany

Signs of Fascism

• Cult of the leader
• Powerful and continuing nationalism
• Disdain for human rights
• Identification of enemies as a unifying cause
• Controlled mass media
• Obsession with national security
• Religion and government intertwined
• Corporate power protected
• Disdain for intellectuals and the arts
• Obsession with crime and punishment
• Rampant cronyism and corruption

Why would Posters 'tear to shreds' valid point if they make sense?

What did the ECHR ever do for anyone?

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Casdon

Try googling ‘why is Reform UK compared to Nazi Germany’ Meandrogrog, then you will see the reasons for the comparison. There are plenty of articles from different publications online.

Reform & Nazi Germany

Signs of Fascism

• Cult of the leader
• Powerful and continuing nationalism
• Disdain for human rights
• Identification of enemies as a unifying cause
• Controlled mass media
• Obsession with national security
• Religion and government intertwined
• Corporate power protected
• Disdain for intellectuals and the arts
• Obsession with crime and punishment
• Rampant cronyism and corruption

This describes Labour to a T

Graphite your list contains attributes that can be linked to Labour, Conservatives, Lib Dem’s…

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David49

Many older voters will vote Reform and changing the triple lock would loose them votes, do not dismiss the threat posed by Farage. As for election promises they are not worth the paper they are written on by any party

If Starmer has poor results in the May elections and a loony left leader is elected that will boost Reform votes at the next GE.

Farage is the last person I would vote for, many others, will

If Starmer has poor results in the May elections and a loony left leader is elected that will boost Reform votes at the next GE.

I'm confused. There is not a General Election in May nor a leadership election

Do try to catch up, a poor election result in May may result in a leadership challenge, thats even worse than Starmer staying.

I’m still waiting to hear who this ‘loony left’ person is David49, do spill the beans, please.

Casdon

I’m still waiting to hear who this ‘loony left’ person is David49, do spill the beans, please.

Yes is a bit of a mystery, do throw us a bone David.

Casdon

Imagine a thread like that, where everybody said which party they were going to vote for and offered no commentary or rationale. What a yawn.

🙄 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Hopesprings52

Will Reform be able to take the UK out of the ECHR, which everyone says is the only way to stop illegal migration? What are GranNetters' thoughts?

It’s local elections! We have another 3 years, at least another 3 years before a GE! Things may look very different then!

I am going to ask one more time that people stop using the word loony to describe those whose politics value people over profit.

It is disparaging and derogatory and means a person with a serious mental illness.

This describes Labour to a T meandrogrog 🙄🙄🙄🤔🤔🤔

Oreo

No, the offer of the triple lock wouldn’t persuade me to vote Reform, tho am not quite pensionable yet anyway.I expect the Conservatives will likely say the same thing before the next GE as well.
The younger generation may not like the triple lock but since a lot of them also like Zack Polanski and his crazy ideas/ policies I don’t know what that says about the 18-24 year olds😱

We’re 67 and 61. We don’t like the triple lock.

(Oh and fwiw, our 31 and 23 year old kids think Polanski is an idiot.)

LizzieDrip

^This describes Labour to a T^ meandrogrog 🙄🙄🙄🤔🤔🤔

😉

I'm missing the bit where Labour controls the mass media.