The reform party has agreed to continue the triple lock

A slight digression but State Pension related with possible implications at local government level were Reform to gain control.

A recent Spectator article by Michael Simmons criticised poor families who claim Universal Credit for being able to by tickets for cultural and leisure activities at discounted prices. Robert Jenrick immediately jumped on the bandwagon and said Reform would put a stop this.

The £1 tickets that Simmons was complaining about are also available to those receiving Pension Credit but Jenrick was silent on that, only complaining about families receiving UC.

I doubt Reform would be able to do what he claims as many of these organisations are charities. It is a decision for the trustees and management whether to offer discounted tickets. I co-run a charity which puts on weekly ticketed events. We offer discounted tickets to people on low incomes. I would like to see Reform try to stop us.

However, local sports and leisure facilities, museums, local theatres etc are often run by the local council. Ours are and offer discounted tickets to a variety of people including UC and Pension Credit recipients.

I intend to ask the local Reform candidate what the party policy is regarding this.

Hopefully, we will never see a Reform government in Westminster but now that Jenrick has spoken out on this, it could happen that local councils coming under Reform control could start to impose measures which prevent poorer people being able to afford to, say, go for a swim, visit a ticketed museum exhibition or take their children to see a pantomime.

If receiving a nSP of £241.30 pw (most don’t), the difference between getting the minimum rise of 2.5% and, say, a triple lock 5% is just £4 a week.

In theory, Reform could guarantee the triple lock in the future while removing ticket concessions now.

Meantime, Farage has just bought £2 million of crypto currency from Stack BTC chaired by former UK Chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng - the chancellor under Truss responsible for the disastrous 2022 Budget.

Never ever fall for the ruse that Reform care about the everyday lives of ordinary people, especially those on low incomes.

Granatlast007
Well said Falling Star, I'm so heartened by the majority opinion on this thread. Reform are a bunch of corrupt, racist, misogynist, opportunist crooks. No way would they get my vote.

Reform will never get my vote either, but I take exception to your choice of adjectives to describe them: corrupt, racist, misogynistic are words used far too easily by GN posters, and I am surprised that the Moderators have not removed this post.

Cossy 10.37 I agree with this.
And I would also like to know what appeals to voters who are considering voting for Reform, apart from the usual thorny issue of excessive immigration. What else appeals to them?

We are voting for our local council.

I will be voting for one party for the City Council who empty the bins etc. and for a different party for the County Council who deal with Highways, social care etc.
I choose the person who I feel will be best for the job. In my case both have been working hard for the past few years and should be allowed to continue. Neither are Reform candidates.

These elections will have no bearing on immigration, pensions and other national government issues.

I will vote for them anyway. I am not going to justify myself on this forum, sufficient to say I hope they can bring the change needed to this country, stopping illegal immigration and taking the UK out of the EU properly. I do not wish to have a great leftie pile on please.

I have yet to meet anyone who would Vote Reform, or admit to it.
Not a hope of me every voting that way.

Meandrogrog

I will vote for them anyway. I am not going to justify myself on this forum, sufficient to say I hope they can bring the change needed to this country, stopping illegal immigration and taking the UK out of the EU properly. I do not wish to have a great leftie pile on please.

I hope there isn’t a pile on. But please don’t use the label ‘leftie’ because there are probs many people whose politics come from every point on the compass who do not like Reform.
And if someone is left of centre that’s fine just as it is fine to be right of centre.
I personally voted for Major but not Thatcher and voted for Blair - for my sins - I did not like Corbyn but respected his right to stand and voted for Starmer because since Major there hasn’t been a decent centre right Tory leader.

FriedGreenTomatoes2

I will once again vote for Reform UK

And no Sarnia I don’t consider myself a ‘knuckle dragger’.
What a vile description. I won’t report your comment but let it stand as I think it says more about you than anyone who intends to vote for Reform UK

As for your question infoman their promise to keep the triple lock wouldn’t interest me either way.

Funny old world though when we say ‘we can’t afford it’ yet MPs get to enjoy platinum pensions. Gah!

Yes I think you are spot on with Sarnia, vile description of Reform supporters and says everything about this poster.

So, it has been politely suggested that Posters desist from name calling.
Does 'London woke lefties' and similar come under this 'ban'?

Should do, all things being equal!
This is N and P: if a person is very personally attacked, that’s one thing:
But attempting to silence posters from using generic criticism as to Reform, that’s just taking things too far and trying to guilt trip doesn’t work.

Meandrogrog

I will vote for them anyway. I am not going to justify myself on this forum, sufficient to say I hope they can bring the change needed to this country, stopping illegal immigration and taking the UK out of the EU properly. I do not wish to have a great leftie pile on please.

You’re doing the very thing you accuse others of doing.

One doesn’t have to be a “leftie” to not wish to vote for Reform.

I’m just interested, if you’re able/willing to respond, just exactly “how” Reform will prevent Asylum Seekers entering the Country illegally, and why on earth you feel we, as the UK, should further distance ourselves from those sharing our continent and our closest allies and neighbours?

Meandrogrog

I will vote for them anyway. I am not going to justify myself on this forum, sufficient to say I hope they can bring the change needed to this country, stopping illegal immigration and taking the UK out of the EU properly. I do not wish to have a great leftie pile on please.

People who talk of great pile-ons tell me much about the poster.

Maremia

So, it has been politely suggested that Posters desist from name calling.
Does 'London woke lefties' and similar come under this 'ban'?

Clearly not!

Also, no one GNs was singled out in the “name calling” of those making up the political party/limited company Reform.

I’m happy to admit I’d also use those descriptions.

No Reform supporter is ever prepared to discuss policies because there are none which aren’t soundbites that can't be written on the back of a beermat and probably were.

Here’s one:

Help British People Have Children

This is the FULL policy.

Family is the foundation of society. We will reduce the financial pressures that stop working people starting families, support parents, and remove policies that make having children unaffordable. Britain's future depends on supporting the next generation.

Nothing at all about what and how.

Perhaps a Reform supporter could suggest what measures might be introduced ... but while you are think about that …

Note that Reform MPs, including Farage voted against free breakfast clubs for primary school children. Now the new clubs have begun, there are a huge number of posts on X from flag wavers objecting to the clubs.

These are for primary school children irrespective of circumstances and which allow working parents to drop their children off at school early so they can get to work on time and for children to learn to eat together at the start of the school day.

What is there to object to? Why would anyone vote against children having a meal together and learning to socialise?

Graphite, the rage expressed by Mr Jenrick over discounted tickets was triggered by discounts offered by London Zoo. This establishment is, of course, operated as a charitable trust, and is completely independent. His tirade about how he would stop such activities when in power, were, as often, with this gentleman, unresearched, and unenforceable.
It seems representative of the man that he would wish to introduce legislation that would benefit no one, but ensure that someone else was made worse off : you might recall the painting over of murals on his direction.

At my last three children’s primary school, (elder daughter started in 2002, the other two followed 3, then 2, years later), there was a free breakfast club and free homework club, with a snack, after school, open to any and all children.

Mine used it as I worked full time, when I did had the odd day off during school term time, I’d drop them there but go in and give the breakfast club workers a hand.

Chocolatelovinggran

Graphite, the rage expressed by Mr Jenrick over discounted tickets was triggered by discounts offered by London Zoo. This establishment is, of course, operated as a charitable trust, and is completely independent. His tirade about how he would stop such activities when in power, were, as often, with this gentleman, unresearched, and unenforceable.
It seems representative of the man that he would wish to introduce legislation that would benefit no one, but ensure that someone else was made worse off : you might recall the painting over of murals on his direction.

I just loathe all the Reform politicians, they are utterly loathsome and I despise them all!

Just got the Reform leaflet through the door (by post of course, not hand delivered).

Somehow, they fail to mention that Farage would have had us in the middle of the Iran War right now had he been in power.

Whoops, a tad forgetful, there?

Its great material for local political door knocking however - just carry proof of what Farage said around.

It's surprising what effect the rises in fuel and the many other goods it will hit was intitally chosen by Farage, the man of the hour (not). Foolish.

Not to mention a list of his personal earnings whilst supposed to represent Clacton.

A few words can make a difference.

twaddle

Meandrogrog

I will vote for them anyway. I am not going to justify myself on this forum, sufficient to say I hope they can bring the change needed to this country, stopping illegal immigration and taking the UK out of the EU properly. I do not wish to have a great leftie pile on please.

People who talk of great pile-ons tell me much about the poster.

All it tells you twaddle is that the poster doesn’t want a pile on.

There’s no need to justify yourself on here, you and millions of others will vote Reform when the time comes and whatever happens is the result of democracy.😃

ronib

No not a vote for Reform WWM2. Most likely not going to vote. What is the point?

Every point. Apathy could quite easily end with a result you would be unhappy with.
No point moaning about whichever party gets in if you yourself don’t bother to vote.

Just what my Dad told me from age 4 plus history of his class background leaving school 13 ever even getting the vote at all and Mum's history of women getting the vote.

Don't vote, don't complain.

Oreo

twaddle

Meandrogrog

I will vote for them anyway. I am not going to justify myself on this forum, sufficient to say I hope they can bring the change needed to this country, stopping illegal immigration and taking the UK out of the EU properly. I do not wish to have a great leftie pile on please.

People who talk of great pile-ons tell me much about the poster.

All it tells you twaddle is that the poster doesn’t want a pile on.

But the poster appears only to object to a "leftie" pile-on. That tells me so much.

But millions don’t vote in UK elections. Don’t think they complain. Completely disengaged more likely.

Oreo

There’s no need to justify yourself on here, you and millions of others will vote Reform when the time comes and whatever happens is the result of democracy.😃

That's what happened in Germany in 1933 - so that's OK then.