Anyone else a bit baffled about the Gisele Pelicot case?

Victim blaming is never a good look

Gisele Pelicot saw a lot of medical specialists to try and find out why she was so tired and felt unwell, as well as having gynaecological problems. DH went with her pretending to be baffled and concerned. Doctors did not look for the unimaginable abuse she was suffering from, as who would have imagined that.

Why on earth would she suspect that her husband of many years would be drugging her?

You'll be even more baffled by the Lily Fisher story.

Elusivebutterfly

Gisele Pelicot saw a lot of medical specialists to try and find out why she was so tired and felt unwell, as well as having gynaecological problems. DH went with her pretending to be baffled and concerned. Doctors did not look for the unimaginable abuse she was suffering from, as who would have imagined that.

Thanks Elusivebutterfly for explaining, I hadn’t read that. Poor woman and so very brave to publicise all that she went through.

I suggest you read this Poppy
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgx7xy77ydo

Baggs

You'll be even more baffled by the Lily Fisher story.

Which Lily Fisher?
I have missed this I think.
I thought she was an actress...

I suppose an actress can also have a story!
🙄

There are a couple of other lengthy threads about Gisele Pelicot, which go a long way to explaining her situation. It is really almost unimaginable for any of us to fully comprehend what she went through, but her courage and dignity have been astounding. She is so right - shame must change sides.

Thanks for that link, Jaxjacky.

Baggs

You'll be even more baffled by the Lily Fisher story.

You don't mean Lily Phillips, do you - because that story is not for the faint hearted either!

There is a documentary telling Gisele's story on Channel 5. She has been astonishingly brave to make her case public and to watch the horrendous videos her husband took of her, despite her trauma. She is applauded by crowds of women each time she goes to court.

Jaxjacky

I suggest you read this Poppy
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgx7xy77ydo

That's an excellent article. Thanks for the link.

She asked her husband if he was drugging her but he was so upset she could even think such a thing he was in tears.
Nothing new suspected it so it wasn't looked for. Noone can imagine the unimaginable (I think her son said that at the trial when asked if he had suspicions). The thing is... Gisele will not be the only woman subjected this and that's why she refused anonymity.
www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/11/a-rapist-can-be-in-the-family-how-dominique-pelicot-became-one-of-the-worst-sexual-predators-in-history

Poppyred

Did she really have no idea that she was being drugged? Surely she had some suspicions?
Strong barbiturates have side effects don’t they?

Yes, I admit I am baffled. Baffled (and shocked) about her husband's behaviour and that of his accomplices.

It reads as if she spent her life in a constant fog, falling asleep, unwell, losing her hair, gynaecological problems, with no idea why, and that the doctors she consulted were just as baffled.

Who’s Lily Fisher? Any links?

Interesting links, thank you. The Guardian article is chilling, it seems that the accused may be a suspect in at least two previous rapes and murders.

The worst bit of the article, to me was:

Several told investigators it wasn’t rape if Gisèle’s husband had consented for her. “He can do what he likes; it’s his wife,” one said

I know, that's such an appalling attitude. Women are still seen as mere commodities by so many men.

Oh yes! Missinterpreted - Lily Phillips - who was/is an Only Fans "girl" and adult film actress.

Pretty shocking too. And obviously not what she expected.

NotSpaghetti

Oh yes! Missinterpreted - Lily Phillips - who was/is an Only Fans "girl" and adult film actress.

Pretty shocking too. And obviously not what she expected.

Well, no - but apparently she's going for 1000 next!
I know someone whose daughter has made a lot of money from Only Fans and bizarrely, she's always telling everyone about it and how proud she is of her. I know most say they do it through choice - but I can't say I'd want my daughter doing it (or my son, for that matter!)

I think since then she has been quite distraught.
I'm not sure if that's true anymore.

OK. I'm wrong.
Just looked this up.

She will have to "beat" Lisa Sparks then! 🙄

What a weird Guinness World Record.

Baggs

You'll be even more baffled by the Lily Fisher story.

Lily Phillips.

The girl needs help. She may think it was her decision but clearly that is strange behaviour.
There was a team there organising this too.

What kind of man joins in with this? They can have no self-respect either.