Always use your indicators!

I do agree however that it is so important to use indicators when appropriate.
I have noticed how many new cars don’t seem to be fitted with them now. 🤣

I remember on my test decades ago being asked by the examiner at the end of the test "when does a pedestrian have priority" and gave the answer "always" to which he replied "correct". I passed
I tend to indicate at all times except sometimes when there's a compulsory sign. If it's mandatory to turn left or right it's really not necessary unless you're planning to disobey the instruction.

That is nonsense, you are observing the road and surroundings and deciding to indicate even though it is not necessary.

MOnica The below is from Roadsmart - Advanced Drivers Manual
However I do appreciate many have not undertaken an Advanced Driving Course (I used to prepare people for their Advanced Test) so possibly for them it would be better to indicate rather than not, and is not something that would fail you on a DVLA test.

As Advanced Drivers we should only indicate when another road user can benefit from our signal or in anticipation of such a signal being required.

Whether to indicate or not is like all other aspects of Advanced Driving - there has to be a well thought out reason for doing so. Indicating ‘just in case’ ALL THE TIME, removes the ‘thinking’ and causes us to drive on ‘autopilot’. Anticipation is good but let it be based upon experience and evidence rather than guesswork^.

Roadsmart is not always right. It is based on police manuals. DH passed the advance driver test run by the the Advanced driver group. He failed the first time because he was adviseddidn't drive fast enough. He was advised that he should drive as close to the speed limit as he safely could. We live in area where, then lots of the main roads had 40 and 50 mph speed limits but tiny windy country roads had no restrictions at all and he refused to drive at speeds he considered far too fast. He is not a particulalry slow driver, but he is careful. Once he had the qualfication, he returned to his old driving speed on country roads.

I will continue to signal whether it is needed or not regardless of what anyone says. It is not going to cause any accidents and might save me from having one.

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Unfortunately, the point here is not what we all were taught, but how to get it into the heads of those who have forgotten to use indicators when driving a car, and hand-signals when riding a bike that for their own and others' safety they must indicate before changing direction.

Oh, and let's add bicycle ligths to the list! The number of bikes being ridden at night or in the early morning with no bike lamps, and the cyclist never having heard of day-glo vests either, is quite unbelievable.

We need a massive poster campaign reminding people of basic road safety, both for car drivers, cyclists and pedestrians.

Add to that, cycling with heaphones/ear buds, and phone in the hand also.

Roadsmart is not always right.It is based on police manuals^.
OK.

This morning I followed a veteran cyclist (lime green anorak) towards a very small traffic roundabout. As we approached she stuck her right arm out, moving from the left lane (straight on) into the right lane, arrow painted indicating right turn only.
Fortunately I was driving slowly as she cut in front of me, then proceeded to drive straight on, not turning right.
I think her arm movement was not an indication of direction but a sign to me to drop back.

Police manuals for police drivers to obey when driving in situations very different to those of the normal driver including getting to emergencies in the fastest possible time and following and chasing drivers on public roads. They are taught to drive as close to the speed limit as possible on all roads.

Many ordinary drivers have not had the high speed driving training, nor been taught the specialist techniques the police have. They would be very foolish and probably driving dangerously if they tried to emulate them without the training.

Really Cagsy ? That’s one clever car !

CrazyH Teslas are very clever cars as they alert the lane changes in the same way. They don’t need keys to open or close the doors, or to start the engine, you just need to be close- by with the phone app.
They can even pull out of a parking space on their own without a driver, which is handy if a numpty parks too close.
The list goes on….

MOnica Have you read a Police driving Manual?^

From Roadcraft
The speed limit is the absolute maximum and does not mean that it is safe to drive at that sped irrespective of the conditions.

Driving at speeds too fast for the road and driving conditions can be dangerous.
1. ^you should always reduce your speed when
the road layout or condition presents hazards such as bends^.
2. sharing the road with pedestrians, cyclists and horse riders, particularly children and motorcyclists.
3. Weather conditions make it safer to do so.
4. Driving at night as it is more difficult to see other road users.

Also
Drive at a speed that will allow you to stop well within the distance you can see to be clear.

Whether Police Advanced Drivers always drive to these rules is debatable!

I have not, but DH did and also had tuition for the Advanced drivers test, where he was failed because he did not drive fast enough.

Now, he has never been a slow driver, but he was told he was driving too slowly in situations where he considered to drive any faster would be dangerous. from what he said, I understood there was actually some contention within the Advanced driving world on this subject.

Police drivers are highly trained with specialist driving skills.

Driving at speeds too fast for the road and driving conditions can be dangerous.^ On the same road in the same driving conditions a trained police officer may well drive considerably faster than the ordinary motorist because of his exceptional skills.
To quote from your post ^

I'm another who indicates even if noone's around as you've said it was drummed into us