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To(i)let or not to (i) let, that is the question.

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GabriellaG54 Sun 17-Nov-19 13:49:49

Tomorrow I am having a new boiler installed.
When the company director (that's who I was told to expect) called last week to inspect and quote, he asked to use the loo.
I have just the one bathroom and dislike workmen using it but said yes anyway.
He was in there for a long peeeee and neither flushed nor used the basin and hand towel.
Tomorrow I'll give them lunch money (as I would anyway) and ask the men to use the hotel or a cafe in town which is a short walk away.
I don't like the idea of them not washing hands and touching countertops, handles and visible kitchen equipment but they tend to put tools and work stuff on the floor then on kitchen work surfaces even though the boiler is in a small utility room.
Do those of you with just one loo, mind workmen or others not in your family or friends circle, using those facilities?

M0nica Mon 18-Nov-19 20:46:59

ENO It has been in Building Regulations, which have to be followed, from sometime in the 1970s. However it only applies to new properties of more than one storey, so not bungalows and flats but any 2 storey house will have a cloakroom, no matter how small. That is why many small modern houses have a sticking out closed porch structures at the front, which contains the front door and the cloakroom.

This regulation does not apply to houses already in existence when the regulation was brought in.

We were house hunting in the late 1960s in the south east and practically all new houses then regardless of how small they were had downstairs cloakrooms and we would not have considered buying a new house that did not have one.

BradfordLass72 Mon 18-Nov-19 20:57:01

Like GabriellaG54 I often give a little packet of home-baked goodies to the people who deliver here and also to the hard-working kids who collect the rubbish and recycling each week.
Why not? I appreciate what they do.

Actually, it never occurred to me that the Courier driver might be Muslim but my shortbread is Halal anyway. smile
Not vegan though as its made with butter. If they choose not to eat it, that's okay by me.

When the lawn-mowing team come in summer, there is always a jug of juice and glasses for them too. You can't work 3 hours in temperatures of 29º+ and expect one titchy bottle of water to suffice.

I too was brought up in an era where "housewives" took out food and drink for workmen.
That was in the days before every gang had a truck with a portaloo and food provided.

I feel especially sorry for the people who stand in such heat and cold with STOP/GO signs at roadworks and in the days when I could drive, always bought something for them to eat and drink: a Mars Bar and a cold can of L&P perhaps, and handed it to them on the way back.

When I moved into my present home, it was sited on a field where 10 more houses were due to be built, most of them during the winter and in very cold, sometimes rainy conditions.
There must have been at least 20 guys working on this building site at any one time and had their own toilet facilities.

I had a crockpot of soup, cups and bread on my deck for any of them to help themselves. It goes back to my childhood, it's what you do.

I can see nothing wrong at all with such acts of humanity.

BTW MawB you can add to your list the phrase we often use here, 'wharepaku'. It means small house and comes from the days when the toilet was
out back, a separate structure in the paddock (see pic).
smile

M0nica Mon 18-Nov-19 21:02:22

I have never gone beyond hot/cold drinks and biscuits, but those are always offered.

mumofmadboys Mon 18-Nov-19 21:17:44

A homeless man once knocked on our door and asked to use the loo as he had an upset stomach. We offered him the downstairs loo and my DH cleaned it afterwards.

annep1 Mon 18-Nov-19 21:27:43

Not the case in NI. Regulations only changed few years ago.

Nanny41 Mon 18-Nov-19 22:14:13

I have never heard anything like this, giving lunch money to workers, what is happening.They always used to have packed lunches, or they go somewhere to have lunch.Its natural to offer them tea/coffee etc or in warm weather plenty of water to drink, but lunch money, thats beyond me. As for them using the toilet, if nature calls then they have to go, and they are humans after all, why shouldnt they use the proprietors toilet for goodness sake.

Hetty58 Mon 18-Nov-19 22:53:02

I offered the plasterer a drink but he only drinks bottled water so I offered him a coffee but he only drinks decaf made with bottled water - so I gave up at that point!

Callistemon Mon 18-Nov-19 22:58:19

The thread title made me think of that great Shakespearean quote:
"To pee or not to pee, that is the question."

Sorry to lower the tone

moon

suziewoozie Tue 19-Nov-19 00:26:37

Another one under the misapprehension that workmen are people who happen to be working in my house. I suppose I regard them as any other guests in my home. I find as others have said that more and more of them work through without a lunch break and not all want tea or coffee but are always grateful to be asked. As for radios, I always offer one - it can be company during a day’s hard work. We’ve become friendly with our electrician - our dgc go to the same school as his dc and we’ve helped each other out with any school pick up problems ( I know, I know letting a workman near my dgc).

I’m actually very particular about who I’ll recommend him to - I have to be absolutely sure they’ll treat him well so there’s some on here I wouldn’t let him anywhere near.

Last year I had a range of workmen in the house for quite a while - everyone used dust sheets and tidied away at the end of their day, leaving the house cleaner than when they arrived. ?.

Saetana Tue 19-Nov-19 00:56:57

Oh FFS some people just seem to want to have a go at @GabriellaG54 - whatever she posts. I see nothing wrong in what she has posted on this thread, and indeed applaud her for feeding her workmen and delivery drivers. Why do some people on here have to be so nasty?

Blondiescot Tue 19-Nov-19 08:07:51

I'm pretty sure the OP often posts stuff like this in the hope of provoking such a reaction...

NanaandGrampy Tue 19-Nov-19 08:52:07

grin Blondiescot

MawB Tue 19-Nov-19 08:53:04

Surely not Blondiescot ? ?

lemongrove Tue 19-Nov-19 08:57:59

That’s all right sooziewoozie I expect most of us have their own choice of electricians....we do, at any rate,so I don’t want yours wink

annep1 Tue 19-Nov-19 09:14:21

I am pretty sure I didn't see it as provocative.

annep1 Tue 19-Nov-19 09:16:27

Are some of you not worried about actually really hurting someone?

MawB Tue 19-Nov-19 09:30:06

Add comment | Report | Private message GabriellaG54 Mon 18-Nov-19 13:10:34
Don't believe a word I type. That's fine by me. We none of us know truth from fiction on here, it's all froth and fantasy

confusedconfused .

Maggiemaybe Tue 19-Nov-19 10:29:07

Obviously not, annep1.

annep1 Tue 19-Nov-19 10:32:28

MawB. Of course that's her reaction to what could possibly be called bullying.
Shame on the lot of you.

suziewoozie Tue 19-Nov-19 10:35:18

There are a handful of posters who appear to be beyond reproach - some people pile in to defend them no matter how horrible they frequently are to other posters.

MawB Tue 19-Nov-19 10:43:56

“Bullying “ (not that there was any) and GG are another example of an oxymoron, Annep1 perhaps you don’t know OP of old.
Enough already, this is irrelevant and pointless.

annep1 Tue 19-Nov-19 11:10:12

I don't know anyone very much on Gransnet. But I do know we are all complex people. No one is all good or bad. Often there are things about other people that we can't understand. And we need to remember that.
Sometimes our actions can have harmful consequences and we can't go back and undo them. I for one, shall be extra careful how I speak to anyone from now on.

wildswan16 Tue 19-Nov-19 11:29:39

Annep1 thank you for saying what I was thinking.

annep1 Tue 19-Nov-19 12:00:39

Thankyou Wildswan16. I appreciate that.

Boosgran Tue 19-Nov-19 12:24:40

I completely agree with you annepl. Well said.