Prince Andrew

His media advisor quit two weeks ago because he was against the interview. I have doubts that he would listen to advisors , too stupid and too puffed up .

Surely the NSPCC will want him to stand down .

I doubt we will see anymore of him until he is at Sandringham

Par for the course with the wealthy, privileged men who are the UK elite.
How can anyone criticise PA yet still support/vote for Johnson?
Sleazebags both of them!

this has nothing to do with politics,

Iam you don’t mean that. You can’t - not even almost. He was living in this world of JE, GM, for years. We live in a world where there is the daily sexual exploitation of women and young girls by a tiny minority of men, many of whom are rich and powerful. Sometimes it’s dressed up in fancy parties in Belgravia, Mar-el-Largo, private estates and islands with girls flown in on private jets and sometimes it’s a dirty back street or filthy brothel with girls brought in in the back of lorries. It’s never right, the young women are never truly free agents. Sometimes in PAs world they may not even realise they are being abused until much later. It doesn’t matter in the end details about photos, or exact dates. PA was a friend of JE and GM. That was always wrong - I do not buy for one minute that BP, the security services were not aware of the circles he was moving in. C4=showed how much was in the public realm years ago.

The least our pandered RF can do is to act with a modicum of decency and respect and choose their friends more carefully ( especially after JS and PB) They could at least pretend to share the values that the vast majority of British peoples believe in and they could start by not thinking it’s acceptable to mix with and take money from people who traffic young women and treat them as pieces of meat for their own perverted pleasures.

suziewoozie although I may agree with some of your points re trafficking etc I do not think the whole RF can be considered culpable in the actions of one individual.
As a mother, perhaps HM cannot believe that her child is capable of anything like this and he has persuaded her that this cannot be so.

I think that republicans may seize on any reason to disparage the Royal Family but I cannot think of many Republican presidents whose behaviour is exemplary.

PA said he wanted to do the honourable thing and tell JE that he no longer could be friends with him , A paedophile does not deserve to have any considered honourable intention whatsoever, This would be after J E supposedly paid of a debt of the Duchess of York , of £15,000 , why when PA could well afford to pay his ex wife,s debts surely,

My point Call is that we have a right to expect the RF ( as an institution/organisation) with all their vast resources, to keep their collective nose clean. It s not just one doting mother and her pathetic son - it’s bigger than that, it’s a collective failure of an institution that is supposed set the tone of the nation. If it can’t be aware of and handle this matter properly ( and it hasn’t ) then we have to ask the question is it fit for purpose. Your comment about republican presidents and their behaviour is unbelievably facile and irrelevant and frankly I’d expect better of you. I’m not a republican by the way - but this latest episode is not helping

facile and irrelevant

I'm sorry but I disagree.

a collective failure of an institution that is supposed set the tone of the nation

suziewoozie If anyone dares to comment on the hypocritical behaviour of Harry and Meghan you come down on them like a ton of bricks.

And why are you always so rude in your replies?

Call what I took from your post was ‘PA hadn’t behaved well but then neither do republican presidents so better keep the RF’. Well how about having our own standards of behaviour that we judge our own RF by regardless of any where else. Also there are plenty of heads of states in non- monarchy countries that just go quietly about their head of state duties without being friends with JE or trailing other sex scandals in their wake.

I honestly don’t understand your post merlot . For one thing there is NO comparison between this and the things H and M have been criticised for. And for another thing , with them, it’s the selective pile on I object to - anything from how oddly she holds her baby, to wanting to have Christmas with her mum, to using private jets, to how she controls him etc etc

Silvio Berlusconi?

Burlusconi was head of government ( like our PM) and not head of state ( which HM is). My point to Call is that the alternative to our RF would be a non royal head of state and we never seem to hear much of them, they just get on with all the ceremonial stuff. The US model of a combined head of state and head of government is not the universal alternative to a RF.

I find him creepy. A self important, arrogant man, who cavorts with sexual predators whom most people would avoid like the plague. He knew what he was doing and with whom. They were the people with whom he felt comfortable, he knew what they were like, his kind of people. No remorse for the young lives ruined, just being caught with his trousers down. He should be removed from the Royal circle, his allowances stopped. The Queen has always had a soft spot for him , how he has let her and his daughters down as well as the country. Goodness knows what his daughters partners families feel about their children's father. Inwoukdntvwant him round mine.

Over 50 women as witnesses to the world of Epstein who mixed with the rich and famous yet one man is wanted to fly to America to answer questions

So many victims yet there was a search for one victim who lived in Australia

Prince Andrew has not been involved with the NSPCC for several years. Thank God.
A car crash of an interview for him, but an opportunity for us to get a glimpse of an arrogant, entitled individual with a lack of empathy and sympathy for the victims.
No remorse for his friendship with a convicted serial sex offender.

A Buckingham Palace spokesman once said Epstein had taught Andy how to relax. I’ll just leave that there.

Relaxing , is that what it’s called ?

OMG sometimes I relax too!!

Doubt anyone will now say ‘I spent the evening relaxing ‘

And now he might have to the US to give evidence on oath.

O. M. G.

suziewoozie you can put your own interpretation on my posts if you wish; however, I know what I say and your interpretation is your own from your own point of view.

Andrew is not our Head of State nor ever likely to be. HM was drawn unwittingly into this as he invited his friend to meet her; I doubt she knew of his life at the time. Standing by her son as publicly she did recently was unwise, she should have distanced herself. However, if she believes absolutely in his innocence as he has presumably convinced her, then that is why she did so.

Urm I expect there were many strings to Epstein's bow - like a malevolent spider drawing all into his evil web.

(Anniebach has already said that)

I think he was stupid and should have taken advice from royal PR people. I like the Queen and I like the monarchy and I fear some of the Queens relations are behaving like silly ordinary aristocrats .

Prince Charles needs to have a blitz on appropriate royal behaviour by some of the others.

They all ought to obey the laws and have a mind to moral leadership.

None of the girls were actually underage were they? Not in UK terms.

I wonder if the 'trafficking' was simply introducing them to a lifestyle that they were happy to be involved in. We're not talking paedophiles here are we.

Just putting another point of view into the mix.