Prince Andrew

Ahh thanks Annie I didn’t realise by the title

It’s all a mess, isn’t it?
I doubt PA will go to America or answer any official questions though, I think the recent interview was all anyone will get.

I watched the Dispatches programme earlier this evening, it cleared up a few things. The photo was taken on Virginia’s own camera, there seemed to be some queries about that on the thread.
I also wondered why JE lent Sarah Ferguson £15000. Surely Andrew could have rustled that up himself, instead of asking anyone else to lend it?

Well .annie why the questioning of the time lag in exposing abuse? You’ve only got to look at the cover up over years in the RC church and the Cof E to see that the powerful and well connected have successfully hidden their abuse for decades - this is just another example of the truth finally coming out

I honestly think that you need to see the C4 programme to understand the context and given that C4 lawyers will have been all over it, it makes you realise what is uncontested and can be said without having to say allegedly. It has been known for years exactly what JE and GM are snd PA had been in their ‘circle for years . It was an open dirty secret and BP knew or should have kniwn

I’m playing catchup here ....

Just burst out laughing at Gonegirl’s haven't said very much. It's you lot ?

Hilarious! My best laugh of the day.

Thanks suziew of course VR was who she is. I was thinking of her with the surname I suppose that begins with G and I can’t spell it!

suzie if the photograph was taken with the girl’s camera it is quite possible she kept the photograph for 10 years, if she did why would she want to keep it when it would remind her of being raped many times ,

Cricky all these initials are driving me crackers now whose BP?

How am J supposed to know? I don’t know how the mind of allegedly abused young woman works.you don’t have sympathy for abused women do you?

Me too Bluebell , I have no idea who BP is

Anniebach was Virginia Roberts not tracked down to appear as a witness in the trial of Epstein?

Yes she was. They said on the radio this morning.

BP will be Buckingham Palace BlueBelle

BP must be Buckingham Palace.

And PB Princess Beatrice

yet?

Buckingham Palace

Callistemon I didn’t know she was tracked down , I just wonder why they had to track some one down in Australia when there must be so many victims living in America

I don't know, Anniebach
I think others were found but perhaps had not been photographed with him?

I don't think this should be elevated as a big issue. He's a royal who isn't really seen as major influence, never seen as the sharpest knife in the drawer. This is the 21st century and he was happy to be in the company of American people with money. Should he have regretted his friendship with Epstein once he was guilty of a crime? Difficult, hindsight is a wonderful thing.

More than 20 women gave evidence and there were over 30 more who were abused but didn’t appear in court

From memory, she was interviewed some years earlier but it wasn't pursued. A new senior officer was appointed and pursued her allegations, that is what was under investigation when he died in prison.
She wasn't chasing it, she was asked if she'd be prepared to cooperate and she did.

I am curious as to who had the photograph Callisemon

I watched 50 minutes of the interview earlier today, car crash doesn't begin to describe it. PA squirmed and under pressure reminded Emily M, that he is a member of the RF. His excuse for spending 4 days living with JE after his release from prison for sex offences was that he is too honourable to end a friendship by telephone.
I can't imagine who was advising him. His PR team must be more than useless, unless of course, they were wise enough to tell him to say nothing, to stand by the statement put out by Buck Palace, that at least made reference to the victims here. None that from PA. absolutely dire.
I do hope he's dropped by the NSPCC immediately. He had the brass neck to say his involvement with that charity meant he knew the signs to look out for on sexual abuse, and saw none in JE 's various homes he stayed in. See no evil, hear no evil....

Has he ever taken advice from his PR people or anyone, I wonder, Iam64.

Good question Callistemon. If he had shown an ounce of empathy, I could have (almost) felt sorry for him. He just couldn't stop himself making it worse every time he opened his mouth.

Disastrous for PA