Toilet Talk

I wouldn't worry about people washing hands. I'm sure we touch things all the time that other folk have touched. I dont use perfumed soap. So just water for me.

Too many shocking posts to comment individually but goodness communal changing rooms!!.

I think individual cubicles for loos is the future.
I think its perfectly ok to not want men to hear me peeing even if it is normal.
The jokes some comedians feel they can make about normal bodily functions are disgusting and I can see that the audience do not all appreciate them.
I despair of the modern world. (And I'm not an old fuddy duddy)

The example of the monthly accident is so important, also the puchasing of sanitary products when caught short. Would you really want to stand in front of a man and purchase one and then go into the cubicle to use it with him outside? Companies are not going to want the expense of putting one machine in each cubicle.

Even more important in schools, where the girls can get mocked.

Warmthlover

This was a very big new one, maybe they don’t all have them, but this one was very clean

Nanamac

Haha, just noticed, my bladder control isn’t too good either

I hate mixed toilets, the majority are all right, but some are disgusting particularly when men have used them, wet all over the floor, trying to manage long trousers before sitting down is a problem, not wanting them to fall into the wet on the floor,toilet seats up isnt nice, I dont like touching them to put them down in place.Ladies toilets are for ladies and gents for men IMHO I may be old fashioned but sticking to my guns on this.End of rant.

Pantglas1 I had never considered the situation you mention in your first para at 12:08. I'm now totally put off my lunch! Yuk!

I've just come back from a remote area with just one set of public toilets. There were two toilets for men (according to dh!) while the women's just had one which was also the disabled toilet. Why couldn't they have put the disabled loo into the gents? Or have a disabled loo in both? Why is it always women who have budge up and make room?

So if men can claim to be female and use ladies toilets, does that mean my OH can expect to go into a gents toilet and find a gender neutral lady with her knickers down sat in a urinal?

Hi I too have the closed in issues. Unfortunately I now do have to use accessible facilities for physical reasons but used them previously having had panic attacks in some very closed in cubicles. Comforted by Waitrose actually putting a sign on their accessible loo saying not all disabilities are obvious. Others have followed suit. Accessible loos are much bigger, the doors always open out and you have the comfort of an alarm cord.

A friend has been telling me about the toilets at Glastonbury, apparently you stand up and wee into a cardboard bowl with a spout on the end, and it all goes into a big pool of wee, she said all you can see is a circle of bottoms!

Oh yuk those toilets on planes! After a 3-4-5 hour flight they're not fit for anyone to use; and definitely not me! Wet seats, wet floors, dirty washbasin and yards of loo paper all over the place. No. Never. Especially as I have a dread of the plane crashing while I'm the one trapped on the loo minus seat belt!

Reminded me of a story when I was doing my nurse training
( shortly after Florence Nightingale ) The tutor was asked if it was possible to catch a venereal disease from public lavatories. The tutor replied "yes but what a strange place to have sex "

Ha! That made me laugh, sodapop.

I never flush the toilet with my hands I use a piece of toilet paper. I think when one has wiped ones self hands are not very clean,then opening the toilet door I do the same, use som paper, no one ever knows if people do wash their hands,and usually they do after they come out of the toilet,there isnt often a wash basin inside the toilet room.I love automatic taps instead of bacteria covered normal taps. I must sound hysterical, but having been a nurse all my life I have learnt a thing or two.

It's a subject I have mixed feelings about. I do really prefer the idea of separate ladies and gents loos. However I have a son with SN and need to go in with him - hes a young adult so too old to go into the ladies with me and I'm not going into the gents with him. We use the accessible toilets as they are normally unisex. However in some places they are situated inside the regular ladies or gents loo blocks so again that's impossible for us. Taking him out for the day without Dad there can be a bit fraught!!

In some countries women can get raped in mixed toilets. It is rediculous that the majority of eoman get inconvenienced just to appease men who want to be woman. I say they are men as most still have penis. In rich counties let transgender have their own loo.

On holiday in Italy I reluctantly had to use a community toilet. The seat was up. So gingerly lowering it I found it to be perfectly clean. When I removed myself from said seat, it automatically raised itself to the upright position. I thought this was a great idea!

Exactly newnanny.

During my long life I have experienced all sorts of toilets. When I was little in the twenties and thirties ladies toilets had penny in the slot and there was a woman who wiped the seat before you used it. I do not remember any hand washing facilities. Unless you did no twos you didn’t wipe your bottom. Paper was like grease proof anyway.."
On coach trips the men would line up in front of a hedge and the women relieve themselves behind it. No washing of hands before eating their sandwiches. At a race course ladies was a tent with a row of buckets.
LCamping in France sixty years ago the toilet was a plank over an ditch. Another time pointed to the end of a field.
In the
sixties my husband stopped at a garage in Belgium asked for the toilet and was shown a wall in full view of the road. France still had urinals in the centre of villages and towns. Men would relieve themselves by the roadside and it was common for men to use the offside rear wheel of their vehicle.

We are on holiday , camping in the south of France, where thy shower/loo blocks are unisex. The state some men leave the loos , particularly in the evening is gross ! I go armed with anti -bac wipes when ever I venture there ! Most don’t wash their hands either !

The gel sanitizer doesn’t kill Norovirus, but soap and water does. Our local hospital has handwash stations alongside the hand sanitizer bottles.

www.eatright.org/homefoodsafety/four-steps/wash/which-is-best-hand-sanitizer-or-soap-and-water

Frankly, most small cafés and other small places only have one toilet here these days, so as long as it is clean I am happy to use it.

It is a much greater problem that due to the cost of cleaning or due to vandalism a lot of train and bus stations no longer have public toilets!

I'm very fussy about loos. I know the nice department stores that have them - separate sex is a must. When I'm out and about I've been known to go behind a tree!

I wonder how the men will feel about joining the very long queues that we ladies often have to endure. BTW I can never understand why the main entry doors open inwards necessitating handling same as we leave after we have washed our hands .

It pains me to say this but, at my place of work, the ladies loos are left in a far worse state than the gent's loos. Three times recently, the ladies loos were left in such a disgusting state that we had to clean them up before the office cleaners came in. The gents are a bit smelly but nowhere near as bad as the ladies.

I've always thought that public conveniences should be unisex. I remember when helping to plan a new small public building where there were to be only three adult toilets, the planners thought that one should be designated male and two female even though over 90% of the adults using the building were women! We soon disabused them of that idea and made them unisex!

Surely others apart from myself have used women's loos which have been left in a filthy state? Cleaning & drying the seat before use, flushing the loo before you can even think of doing anything, pushing aside dropped wrappers from tampons, etc. And surely I'm not the only person who has had to try to dry the floor before I dare to drop my trousers or alternatively somehow keep them hoicked up round my knees!

Having lived with a few males in my house, I was personally always relieved when I entered the toilet and found the seat up. It did at least mean that they hadn't just taken aim through the seat and hoped for the best!

I would like to believe that we women would, after the initial shock of the new, have a civilising effect on the menfolk's use of toilets. For a start it would, at last, mean equal queuing rights for both sexes. It would also save those awful moments when you have to let a boy child go to the men's loos and you lurk wait outside the door just incase - or was it just me? It's not only women that can get assaulted in toilets.

As long as they are designed with good partitions with handwashing and other facilities in each cubicle, I can't see the problem. And it stops the endless bickering, posturing and moral panic in the media about where a transsexual can go to the toilet!