Recording Boris and partner

It isn't a question of defending him, more a question of being uncomfortable at people immediately jumping to the conclusion that it is "domestic abuse" and he is the perpetrator - no-one knows what really happened.

I don't think he is suitable to be PM but I would rather he was defeated on known facts, not supposition.

We do not have a ‘first lady’ in the U.K.

His and Carrie's ages are of no consequence. Would it be ok if she were 40...or 60?
Who are you to criticise and we have no idea what went on in his marriage to Marina or his reasons for leaving. It's all supposition as none of us lived with them.
We only know what is reported and many of you dismiss reports as 'fake news' or biased journalism.. when the occasion suits, of course.
Cherry picking at best.

Callistemon, you are entirely correct to bring to the attention of all engaged in this thread that domestic abuse is not solely against the woman in any relationship. Many men are victims of such violence, and I should have referred to that in my above posts.

Some forum members making posts on this thread are now attempting to "play down" the significance of her shouts of "get off me" and the noise of breaking crockery etc.

However, this very strong domestic dispute was being carried out within the confines of a flat that enabled others the hear all that was going on, but unable to see what actions were possibly being perpetrated of one against the other. Therefore the recording of the incident was justified should any injury occur to ether persons involved.

As i have already started, if anyone wishes to become the next Prime Minister of the United Kinkdom, having a stable and quiet domestic life would be a huge advantage should you not want the press to have that domestic life as their lead story for any number of days.

Can't believe the support for Boris shown by majority of gransnetters on this site as far as I am concerned this was a case of domestic violence and for all that the neighbour knew that girl could have been injured or dead I am sure he recorded what he heard incase it was ever needed what he did with it next is up to him many other neighbours also concerned disgusted

GG as your post started by referring to my remark about BJ not being a stayer, I assumed that it was me you referring to.
I still feel that is so.

grandad1943 what is a stable and quiet domestic life ?

Posters seem worried Boris may eventually be an embarrassment on the world stage.
I suppose John Kennedy would have caused embarrassment if his philandering had been public knowledge at the time, and as for Bill Clinton......?

The years we heard of Harold Wilson and Marcia

The person who reported this has indeed been named - but the idea that he should be shamed is quite frankly ridiculous as is the idea that two people were having an argument in the privacy of their own home - if this were so they would not have been heard out on the street at ground level - the young married couple who called the police had only been in that block for a year and made the recording because of the loud bang and the fact that she told him to ‘get off’ her - so what should they have done? Closed their eyes to a potential rape or beating of a woman - I’m pretty disgusted with the comments on this thread that Boris is entitled to this and that - get real all of you who feel that a politician who thrusts himself in the public eye first with one policy and then another is entitled to a private life - he isn’t and let’s face it Boris is the first to leak stories of others’ indiscretions to the press for his own gain - he’s up for public scrutiny in all his relationships - surprised that sone women are now arguing for the rights of a misogynist!

Anniebach Quote [grandad1943 what is a stable and quiet domestic life?] End Quote

Well, Anniebach, i feel that my wife Carol and me have enjoyed a quiet and very stable married/domestic life for the last fifty years.

Bringing up our three daughters in that stable and loving environment was our first priority in the early years of our marriage.

And that's the way it should be we believe.

I couldn't give a monkey. What these rotten people get up to is, to me, as interesting as Tony Blair having a crap.

BJ is not PM material whether he's blotted his copybook or not. The fact that he must have been " tanked up " to have exploded like he did does not bode well with anyone who could well lead a country.
What of his heavy nights of drinking then speeches to make each day ? There's little sense out of any of them at the best of times, there'd be even less sense coming out of someone whose mind was already addled.

John Quote [ I couldn't give a monkey. What these rotten people get up to is, to me, as interesting as Tony Blair having a crap.] End Quote.

Well, the above is a constructive post, which begs the question "why post if you have interest in what is being discussed?

I agree grandad1943 but not every politician has had a stable marriage as you have, and as I hoped for .

Saw a comment from a person who just commented that a few years back his lovely 22-year old daughter was killed by her boy friend, whilst living in a multi-occupied flat. Others had heard their arguement, but had not reported it to the police. had they done so, they will probably have saved her life.

Apologies, should be "no interest above."

Heavy drinking, we have had a deputy PM who most certainly had this problem , George Brown

Anniebach Quote [ I agree grandad1943 but not every politician has had a stable marriage as you have, and as I hoped for. ] End Quote

Quite correct in my view Anniebach, but surely if those in the public eye are not the type of person to engage in a stable marriage and domestic life, then perhaps they should seek a career outside of public view.

I have just come home and I have been reading through the posts on this thread and I must say I am disgusted that any person, especially female could say it was just a domestic and we wouldn't have called the police. Also GG Ij think money on your education has been completely wasted if the only word you come up with is cretin, a word that was used to describe people like my daughter with a learning disability. Even the people you wouldn't want living near you wouldn't use it now. Shame on you.

The topic and content of domestic arguments are certainly not for public consumption or investigation. Where would it end? If anyone deserves scrutiny it is a neighbour who records someone’s private argument then sells it to a newspaper.

I have been looking up past PM’s,only two were divorced ,
poor Macmillan comes to mind ,the press didn’t report anything about his marriage

Grandad1943what a chauvinistic and old fashioned view. Marriages break down for all sorts of reasons and the idea that only people who maintain a stable marriage are suitable for public office should have gone out with the Victorians. As it is there are people in all sorts of relationships in every area of life and the only prerequisite should be can they do the job well? Everything else is superfluous. And quite frankly I find your post insulting to those of us who have endured the failure of a relationship and divorce. What you are in fact saying is we are not as good as you, well sorry but actually a lot of us are better. We have more empathy and we understand more than some married people ever will.

Johnson's personality accounts for a large part of his appeal to voters. He has a poor record as Mayor of London (the Boris bikes scheme was set up by Livingstone, his predecessor, and he wasted £53 million on a bridge that never got built). He was an embarrassing disaster as Foreign Secretary, never on top of his brief. But people like him. His fellow Telegraph writer, Quentin Letts, wrote a piece in the Sun, saying that Boris breaks rules, bonks, and supports Brexit, and that's why the elite hate him (as if he was not part of the elite). Since his chaotic personal life is presented to us as part of his bumbling charm, isn't it just as well that we know about the more unpleasant aspects of his character?

Trisha, the fact that he is divorced is not a cause for concern, but the fact that he is a bully surely is.