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Recording Boris and partner

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annep1 Sat 22-Jun-19 10:30:54

This is totally ridiculous as a news headline. Can't a couple have a row without the world knowing. I'm not a Boris fan but this is out of order imo.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 23-Jun-19 10:08:53

Oh some on this thread see it as ordinary omegal extraordinary..

Incredibly irresponsible to normalise it.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 23-Jun-19 10:11:00

This

Jess Phillips
@jessphillips

Every single journalist saying that the neighbours shouldn't have released the story should know that their publication has at some time or another called me and asked for information on abusive MPs. It is rank hypocrisy

maxdecatt Sun 23-Jun-19 10:11:12

The recording and the press....the sum total of those two = money.

Anniebach Sun 23-Jun-19 10:17:08

trisher I agree with you , i think it will strengthen support for Johnson

maxdecatt Sun 23-Jun-19 10:17:14

"Mt & Mrs Smith". They were a married suburban couple of assassins. Some great fight scenes! Did you see the movie?

Authoress Sun 23-Jun-19 10:21:25

The guy banged three times on the door after hearing what sounded like a rape going on, audible from the street. And another neighbour said that she was going to call the police as the police van turned up.
I think I would have called the police too.

crystaltipps Sun 23-Jun-19 10:23:41

Maybe blame the press for printing the story? Or us lot for reading it and talking about it? Or maybe a thoughtless drink fuelled row that just happened to be between an aspirational prime minister and his much younger tottie? Oh no, let’s blame the neighbours who have to put up with it. Let’s face it, it’s a bit of gossip and we are indulging it, so just as much to blame.

Camelotclub Sun 23-Jun-19 10:24:01

I think that a man who might well be our future PM should not have secrets. If this is how he conducts himself when thwarted (probably) what might he be like in power?

CaroleAnne Sun 23-Jun-19 10:25:17

More to the point is it right that someone who is going through a divorce should be in charge of running the country? His mind must be all over the place. Is he able to focus on the importancy of running the country?

Rosina Sun 23-Jun-19 10:28:35

I wonder how much this neighbour got from the Guardian to hand over the recording. Nobody else reported the row; I am indifferent to BJ but this is just too much when people, if they want to shout at each other, can't do it without having their private life blown up on the front page . As the police decided there was no need to investigate I also wonder if the neighbour, who is hostile to BJ in any event, has been lurking to pickup anything he can to record.

annep1 Sun 23-Jun-19 10:28:51

Hmmm. Interesting to hear other views.

sazz1 Sun 23-Jun-19 10:31:11

Being honest I would have called the police just incase someone was badly hurt. There was a loud bang and smashing glass/crockery with a woman telling him to get off and leave. Just because it's a politician doesn't mean DV can't happen behind closed doors. Do not condone giving the recording to the press though

Marieeliz Sun 23-Jun-19 10:31:13

Boris wasn't shouting she was because he was on her laptop she shouted "get of my laptop" then plates being thrown about it wasn't Boris it was the female.

The amount of conversation this lovely neighbour, who is a Remainer, heard seems very detailed, so either the walls are paper thin or he has some kind of listening device. When I have heard my next door neighbours I don't usually hear every detail. I live in a terraced property. Contacting the Guardian is enough for me.

trisher Sun 23-Jun-19 10:33:36

Thanks Annie I really appreciate that.

NainGymraeg Sun 23-Jun-19 10:35:16

How would those neighbours have felt if they hadn’t reacted - twice went to knock loudly on their door to check for safety and then, because of no answer, contacted the police?
Sadly, we read of too many cases where neighbours “mind their own business” and turn up the TV volume only to find later news of domestic violence resulting in death.
Wannabe PM or not, he is still accountable for his actions and particularly as wannabe PM his behaviour should be above suspicion.

crystaltipps Sun 23-Jun-19 10:36:17

The neighbour is a remainer, so the lowest of the low, and must have set up some listening device. Omg, This is becoming more like a soap opera. They didn’t get any money for it btw.

ReadyMeals Sun 23-Jun-19 10:36:42

Having heard the "transcript" that the neighbor recorded, it sounded to me like Boris had decided to stay up late probably researching for his hustings the next day, while the girlfriend was feeling miffed at the lack of his presence in bed. So she grabbed his laptop from him, he was heard saying "get off my laptop", he went to wrestle it back from her, she was heard yelling "get off me" and in the tussle some wine spilt on her sofa, and it all escalated. Although I hate Boris, I think this argument was largely the woman's doing.

HOWEVER... what worries me is, this woman doesn't sound like the typical prime minister's partner who usually kind of put up with the fact the role in office is going to come very much first for a few years and tend to remain in a quietly supportive role. How is he going to function at his best with a woman who is making relationship demands on him that conflict with him needing to spend long into the night working, like pretty much all PMs have been known to?

Plunger Sun 23-Jun-19 10:39:43

They turned the volume DOWN on their TV as they couldn't hear it! Most people would have turned it UP. Politically motivated.

CarlyD7 Sun 23-Jun-19 10:41:02

It was reported that the neighbours heard a woman screaming and shouting "get off me" - I'd be very concerned if I heard that coming from a neighbour's house. And, as others have said, if it had merely been reported and there wasn't a recording, it would have been dismissed as "fake news" (now it can't be). Why was it given to a left wing newspaper - because the right wing ones wouldn't print it (they support him). Overall, I can't see how it won't affect someone's work life if their private life is so messy - and his has been messy for decades. He shows poor judgement, a lack of self-discipline, a lack of loyalty; a lack of self-control, a lack of a good work ethic, and dodgy choices in his private life - I can't see how that won't spill over into his job as PM. We don't become a completely different person at work.

Harris27 Sun 23-Jun-19 10:42:16

Think if they are in any high profile job it goes with the territory. Awful as it seems impossible not surprised. Not keen on the neighbour who recorded apit I'd be watching out if I was him!

Marjgran Sun 23-Jun-19 10:43:46

I am shocked at these responses. 1) he is standing for the highest office in the land 2) all the neighbours heard apparently and others considered calling the police 3) his character has been questioned over and over - constant gaffes in every role he has ever had, previous employers / team members / cannot be more rude about him - like Trump (but more “amiable” apparently - a womaniser, a serial adulter, a liar even in politics, a dodger. His partner is over 20 years younger and considerably smaller. This is publicly relevant information even if it is “remainers” (who share a landing / hall BTW) who published it.
It reminds me of what Trump said “I could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue in daylight and my supporters wouldn’t care”.
Why do women like a charismatic bounder? He will be a disastrous PM.

ReadyMeals Sun 23-Jun-19 10:44:23

The other thing is that it's kind of embarrassing to be known as a person who has screechy domestic altercations, and I feel a bit cringey about having someone with that embarrassment factor representing me on the world stage.

keffie Sun 23-Jun-19 10:45:18

Anyone who thinks this is a non story needs to rethink and/or has never experienced domestic abuse. Its not minimal.

This stepped over the lines of an arguement the moment she screamed "get off me"

If you dont think that is assault, then let me ask you if you would be o.k with a man physically man handling your daughter?

There was also the sounds of things being thrown around. That is also what they call common assault

Someone doesn't scream "get off me" unless they are being assaulted. There was enough noise for more than one set of neighbours to hear.

Quite frankly they did the right thing recording it as it would have been called fake news otherwise.

ReadyMeals Sun 23-Jun-19 10:47:13

I don't know why people say he's charismatic anyway. He's scruffy and unattractive, and he's not exactly sparkling either, he just mumbles and stammers. I don't think he gets places by his charisma, I think he does it by promises and threats and perhaps a bit of "cunning plan"

Marjgran Sun 23-Jun-19 10:47:49

I hope all her friends and relatives are shouting “Leave means leave!” Get out, you are 32.....