Could I ask a favour?

would

Jamila, I heard that man shouting down the caller on radio too and was fuming. He wouold not be getting any cooked meals or sex for six months if he was my partner.

I have often received good advice on GN. Sometimes an occasional post seems a bit harsh but I think, maybe they are having a bad day and need to vent. I don't think offense is taken.

Ditzyme, I also visit a forum that is predominantly male,
and there's certainly nastiness/downright rudeness there! Particularly from those who can't accept that anyone else is entitled to their own (different) opinion.

"Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man".
Elegran; couldn't resist this Aristotle 2 upgrade! "unless he has a sex-change on the way" Quite contemporary, don't you think.

Off to my U3A craft group in a minute.
Some of the conversations are extremely interesting - and startling

a male caller berated the previous female caller by saying why should we be listening to the views of housewives

I wonder if he has a wife, a partner, a mother, a sister, a daughter.
Hope they have hit him with their frying pans (whilst wearing their pinnies, of course).

Then make him sit and watch 'Housewife, 49' on a loop.

There are exasperating threads on GN sometimes, but it certainly isn't dull, I wouldn't have it any other way. If it was all about knitting and cute sayings of grandchildren ( not that there is anything wrong with that), then I wouldn't be on it. I love debating with intelligent articulate people who have a variety of opinions, life experience and life skills, and you only have to read the supportive posts when someone from the community is in trouble or has a tragic event in their life to appreciate what GN means to many.

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MaryEliza54

I shouted at the radio at that. Cheeky fucker. I think she should have pulled the plug on him to be honest

I think it’s all about the topic. Politics, religion etc all fine to be robust about.

Relationships and posters needing a hand hold then no be nice.

What was sad DH said was that she was cross but defended herself by saying she wasn’t a housewife but a professional with a good career - a pity she had been socialised into responding that way. The only real response is ‘And your point is?’

A bit like a man who told me he wasn't going to look at the Gransnet forums "Because I don't want to listen to old women going on about their grandchildren" (I had just finished listing the many and varied topics discussed by posters both men and women) It seems the only topics certain to bring male attention to women are the battle of the sexes and the battle of sex.

In 2018! I would definitely blame that remark on the male callers childhood/upbringing.

My husband was listening to R5 Live this morning-(Brexit) - a male caller berated the previous female caller by saying why should we be listening to the views of housewives ?

A psychologist would probably blame it on their childhood, mcem. You know, the Jesuit saying, "Give me a child until he is seven, and I will give you the man". A boy child who shows behaviour like boasting about tricking people, showing off how he can beat anyone at anything, ignoring the wishes of "mere" female members of his family and only giving in when forced to by shows of strength by the males, physical or personality-wise, is indulged as "He's a real boy!"

What is it with the men who post on GN?
With a few rare exceptions they very quickly appear patronising, chauvinistic, pervy or just irritatingly blokeish!

Oh definitely Maw

TMI

Good grief, Rufus you do know how to start a fight in an empty room
Elegran; Good Afternoon; I cast the bait!; you take it every time!
Btw; you expressed an interest in my "smalls" recently; I can't recall owning a frilly negligee, ever, nor a nightie (not even a beige one) as I prefer sleeping in the "nuddy" if you must know. Best to avoid distractions during my 3a.m. dash!

"ganging up against me too" - Good grief, Rufus you do know how to start a fight in an empty room! Not all comments and references are about you, you know. You are not the focus of everyone's universe, even if you are at the centre of your own!

(part of your charm wink)
Oh thank you Jalima! For a while I thought you were ganging up against me too, so please keep those plaudits coming. I could stay up all night receiving them, but even though they say the elderly need less sleep I'm not that old and it's now nearly 1am, so "nighty-night."

Pressed send too soon. Last sentence should have been "No wonder new posters can't." (distinguish).

If we could see your face or hear your voice, Rufus, as you come out with your humorous remarks, we could probably deduce whether you were being facetious or confrontational. Without those non-visual clues, we can only rely on the actual words and what we can remember (may not be much) of previous form. Multiply that by hundreds of frequent posters and thousands of posts, and there are many opportunities for confusion and unintentional insults. Then there are a very few posters whose personal remarks come from the heart and are not unintentional at all. Distinguishing those snipings from misunderstandings isn't easy for newcomers who don't have any memories of posters' past form to compare.

No wonder new posters can

you always confuse me Rufus
(part of your charm )