Those royals wasting money again

And she was criticised for wearing the same coat for the Wedding that she'd worn 3 times before!

anniebach It seems, along with Corbyn, your other pet hate is Diana and her children. I agree that they do very little of any importance but is that so different from any of the members of the royal family? Edward attended "an event marking the death 1,100 years ago of Anglo-Saxon ruler Aethelflaed" - a somewhat niche occasion that I would imagine has little relevance to the lives of most people. At least Diana brought attention to important contemporary issues - land mines, AIDS, leprosy, etc. etc.

Again, your views seem to have transformed since 2014. You now give the affectionate title "queenie" to the queen and often pop up to commend her, whereas back then you said:

"I have doubts about the queens dedication to her role. Yes she turns out to cut ribbons etc, she reads the red boxes , she turns up for ceremonial events, duty done.

"But she is a woman of great private wealth, would she miss her priceless stamp collection, one or two of her paintings from her private art collection, several pieces of jewelry from the vaults - much was not come by honourable.

"If giving money to countries where children are dying is wrong , how can locking millions in the vaults when ones own country is suffering be right

"What has envy to do with questioning the cost of a monarch, as for envy of her personal wealth, I for one am not envious , I do question how as a Christian she can give her annual Christmas speech speaking of the message of the Christ Child yet store up treasures on earth."

A good post Eloethan. I have never described myself as a Christian. But there is something about this family who claim to be so religious and yet hoard their collective £billions for themselves . I wonder if the queen ever stops to think that those people waving flags and curtsying at her feet might be struggling to make ends meet? I shouldn’t imagine she does. Why would she ? Do the royals have a conscience ? Do they really believe that going to church makes them good Christian people ?

I don’t know .

Oh and meant to add to OldMeg that my DH is going really well thank you . Working far too hard and very long hours for a 66 year old man but that won’t change any time soon .

Charles has done a lot for young unemployed people through the Prince's Trust.

I wonder why it would appear people either have to be practically manning the barricades demanding a revolution or be fawning and worshipping at the feet of the RF

I suspect that most people are like me - don't even think about the RF unless there is something in the news about them, we then note what is happening and then promptly forget about them again.

I agree that appearance is important Polly, but I had to make an effort to look presentable in my working life too. I'd have rather worn trainers than heels and jeans rather than skirts or smart trousers. I hated my commitments on many days and also turned up when I was feeling under the weather. I was out in the traffic in all weathers early in the morning, whether I felt 100% or not. Five days a week, starting at 7am and sometimes going on into the evening.

There are no wardrobe worries for royals, no pressing other jobs to do when their clothes are laid out for them, laundered for them, and makeup artists and hairdressers ensure they look good.

Their hardship or mine? I don't really consider, say, two functions a week arduous, and although a royal tour takes up a few weeks, the travel commitments are hassle free, as are all the arrangements.

I cannot sympathise with their 'plight' I'm afraid. I don't see any hardship at all.

We all have cages. Theirs are gilded. Ours tend to be very sturdy and we only get out of them for two or three weeks a year to go somewhere else, if we are lucky and can afford holidays.

I like my life. I know no different and accept my obligations, work, chores, weekends, family occasions, etc. I am sure they like theirs too and even if not born royal I cannot imagine the restrictions of being part of the Windsor family are too hard to adapt to, or too horrendous.

Eleothan my little stalker, I have not changed my views on the queens stamp collection etc.

You missed my posts on the cost of security, your slipping my little stalker. And my posts on the title of the Prince of Wales, the costs of Wormwood etc.

Gilly, as an atheist you wouldn’t know

Off topic , I wish to say I am not capable of hating anyone, so any poster who claims I hate is a liar .i am not capable of hate or malice , if only the latter was against rules of the forum.

Blimey the nastiness on here is awful.

Really hope that one day there will be a 'gransnet thread' that is not reduced to virtual back stabbing and insults against other grans just because we do not all share the same opinion.

Sometimes I believe in God, sometimes I don't. I have tried and failed to be a Christian. I like the parables and often think of them.

I quite like the royals and enjoy a peek at their outfits. Surely we are capable of nuance and change? We don't all fit into boxes.

A persons faith is between them and their God

Anniebach totally agree with you on that, faith is personal to each individual.

Annie there is more to living a good and decent life than praying to a “god” or attending a church in a fancy hat waving to ones public . That I do know .
I do not believe in a god but I do try to live a morally good and decent life. I love and care for my family. Which is my “ religion”.

Gilly, how you live your life is your concern but in my opinion it is wrong to judge how you believe a person who has a faith should dress or express their faith. You don’t know what is between queenie and her God, who are you to tell me as a Christian how I should think and act, I wouldn’t tell you an atheist how to live your life.

Yes, GrannyGravy13. I am proud not to be on Facebook but is seems to be appearing here somewhat.

And I don’t Annie . Neither is it right to assume that because someone attends church that they are a morally better person than I . I struggle to see how greed and hoarding money fits in with Christian morals But maybe I’m wrong .

I remember seeing my late grandmas priest and asking his permission to read an eulogy to her in his/her church . I told him outright that I was a non believer and he said that my grandma talked about me regularly and that maybe I had more “Christian” values than some others in his congregation .

I’m judging how someone dresses because I said the queen wears a hat to church ? Really ?

If someone describes another person as "loathsome" and later states they are incapable of hate, who do they imagine is doing the loathing? It must be other people. I'm not religious but nor do I ignore my own faults and attribute feelings to other people And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

Yes Gilly you said she wears a hat, what has a hat to do with her faith?

When you know if she gives or doesn’t give help to those in need, when you know what she asks or what she gives to and for her God then speak out, but you never will so I think you are wrong to judge her or anyone’s faith.

And yes Christians are told constantly by atheists how to conduct their lives .

The priest you spoke to was so wrong to speak of the faith or lack of faith in other members of the congregation because he didn’t know. Only one priest knows how strong or weak my faith is , he knows through my confessions which are known to no one else.

Trisher, another atheist who uses scripture as a weapon. I am aware of my faults.

I have never told anyone ever, how to conduct their lives Annie and boy am I aware of my faults .

For the record I think trisher is on your side Annie but quoting from scriptures is wasted on me I have never studied them .

Considering how often the rf appear in the press and on TV I am sure their publicity machine would make us well aware of anything substantial they gave to charity .

For the record gilly no one who uses scripture as a weapon is on my side and I would not want them to be.

For me , loathe is to dislike intensely , I find some people loathsome, this does not mean in any way I hate them