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BlueBelle Thu 05-Apr-18 08:32:02

In the name of being equal a Police Male voice choir in Derbyshire have been told to change their name to include women This choir has been singing for charity for years and years Why on earth should they change I m all fo equality but this is ridiculous
Male voice choirs sound lovely and are quite different to mixed choirs Howabout the servicemen wives choir how come that’s ok

Juggernaut Thu 05-Apr-18 10:50:25

Agus
Too late, there's a woman playing Othello at the Everyman Theatre in Liverpool this year!

GreenGran78 Thu 05-Apr-18 10:57:10

When my husband had to give up driving I used to take him to his Male Voice Choir rehearsals. As a chorister myself, and having quite a deep voice, I happily sat at the back, joining in with the tenors. I loved doing it, and they didn’t mind at all, but making them take women in as members would have changed the whole tenor (sorry!) of the choir. There is room for choirs of every description in our musical heritage, and long may it continue!

Agus Thu 05-Apr-18 10:58:44

Am I psychic? grin. The first male role that came into my head.

Looking forward to reading the reviews.

btw I know the Everyman well from my time there in the late 60’s.

BonnieBlooming Thu 05-Apr-18 11:11:38

Does this mean that some of the gay choirs will have to change their ethos to include heterosexuals? Honestly it's getting beyond a joke!

Nonnie Thu 05-Apr-18 11:31:03

Agus I think that has already been done. About 2 years ago .

Nonnie Thu 05-Apr-18 11:31:39

Sorry Agus had only read the first page when I posted that.

Elegran Thu 05-Apr-18 11:35:17

This has nothing whatsoever to do with "Sexual harassment, bullying, less money then a male." and everything to do with restricting diversity. A male voice choir is one of a whole variety of different musical ensembles. Should string quartets have to change to accommodate trombonists, bagpipers and virtuosos on the comb-and-paper ?

Agus Thu 05-Apr-18 11:40:13

Nonnie not to worry ?

widgeon3 Thu 05-Apr-18 11:49:59

I thought I read that although they used a title quoting the Derbyshire Police, not a single member worked for the Force
I am confused

gmelon Thu 05-Apr-18 12:09:59

"Virtuosos on the comb and paper " elegran
You made me laugh at that vision. Out loud.
Spluttered my water everywhere.

adaunas Thu 05-Apr-18 12:12:22

Since we now allow gender fluid police officers, someone could join a choir as a man and arrive at the next practice having decided to be a woman that day. They’d still have a male voice.

quizqueen Thu 05-Apr-18 12:14:06

The best way to stop this nonsense is for everyone to refuse to buy tickets to see the new mixed police choir and to continue to support the renamed male one wherever they perform. In the same way, I am refusing to go and see the new Black Panther film at the cinema because it contains a black only cast instead of the roles going to the best actors. Reverse racism is okay though, apparently.

curlilox Thu 05-Apr-18 12:17:05

This is just ridiculous. The repertoire for male voice choirs is arranged for male voices. Women can't sing it as they don't have the necessary vocal range!!

FarNorth Thu 05-Apr-18 12:28:19

Can't the name of the choir be changed to reflect the range of voices to be used?
If women have the required vocal range, what's the problem?

FarNorth Thu 05-Apr-18 12:32:25

Just read this :
I have just read the actual report. They are staying a male voice choir just changing the name to 'The Derbyshire Community Male Voice Choir' to cut their ties to the police force which has a gender equality policy.
Thanks, theoddbird.

I still think a name, and policy, concerning the voices required would be sensible.

It's true that some of the choir members may 'become' women. Will they be kicked out, even if their singing voices stay the same?

FarNorth Thu 05-Apr-18 12:35:45

Should string quartets have to change to accommodate trombonists, bagpipers and virtuosos on the comb-and-paper ?
gringrin

Peardrop50 Thu 05-Apr-18 13:18:00

Theoddbird put us all right at 9.34 with the full version which was NOT a silly sexism story after all and yet so many ignored this and continued to rant for nearly three hours until corrected again.
Put it to bed now, it was a mistake. Still a male voice choir thank goodness.

GrannyO Thu 05-Apr-18 13:51:00

One day we'll look back and laugh. Hope I'm still around to do just that.

Neilspurgeon0 Thu 05-Apr-18 14:15:30

www.dagenhamgirlpipers.com

Alive, well and very lively Merlotgran

TellNo1Ok Thu 05-Apr-18 14:16:17

emmmm is this actually true.... ?

grandMattie Thu 05-Apr-18 14:46:45

How long is it before the chaps want us to change the WI? Isn't that blatently sexist?

sarahellenwhitney Thu 05-Apr-18 15:45:28

Anniebach
I like listening to all male choirs and this is how it should be Male.

BlueBelle Thu 05-Apr-18 16:44:29

They are still a male choir ( for now) with a new name but they can no longer appear in their uniform which they all proudly did before I was listening to one of the singers talking on the radio and they are all very sad about it

Nanny41 Thu 05-Apr-18 20:56:38

Long live the Male Choirs, I expect somebody objected as someone did to Cadburys, who now have chocolate eggs NOT EASTER eggs.The world has gone mad!

Luckygirl Thu 05-Apr-18 21:03:28

Is this a wind-up?

There is a lot of music written specifically for male or female voices - are these to be banned?

And cathedral choirs? - will they be forced to be mixed? I know of cathedral choirs that have 2 choirs - boys and girls choirs. They sound totally different - different timbre completely.