You have now asked me that question twice durhamjen is it important to you to know?
Where Is Greta Thunberg These Days?
The Guardian would have us believe that only 'flaky' Christians are likely to be upset by Gregg's depiction of the Nativity, placing a sausage roll in the manger.
So, Christians are 'flaky" (oh so witty, not) to be upset?
I am no longer a church-goer but I was brought up as a Christian, as were many of us I suspect, and I am offended that Greggs think it is OK to offend as they have. Not only that, journalists like this oh so lofty sneering one place the blame for any offence on silly Christians who are obviously not normal if they have faith.
It really sickens me, this media hatred of certain groups when some are beyond criticism.
One journalist suggested all religions are open to parody and it is par for the course. I'd suggest otherwise. Make fun of Mohammed and you'll be blown to smithereens. Think Charlie Hebdo.
The hilarity the defaced manger scene has caused over the internet puzzles me. Greggs in their insensitivity have become the comic heroes and Christians, for believing in Christ's lowly birth, are the idiotic 'right wing' reactionaries, according to left wing media.
I am cross at the power of social media to dictate what we should think, but also on behalf of my truly lovely Christian friends. One told me she has 'turned the other cheek'.
How do you feel?
You have now asked me that question twice durhamjen is it important to you to know?
In fact actually three times durhamjen 
Skyandblossom interesting figures but let's not forget that some of those killed were killed because of the religion they followed. So Muslims in Croatia, Jews in Hitler's Germany. Religious slaughter is not confined simply to wars, it takes place in times of peace and in countries that seem to be settled. It is not confined to Europe but has been exported to Africa and the Americas where the numbers will never be known. It includes the children beaten and starved in orphanages. It includes all conflicts and all religions, not just Christianity and it is far more extensive than any atheist regimes.
I don’t think it is ‘far more extensive than atheist regimes’ actually trisher I think it is far less.
Far more killing is done for power, territory and tribal issues.
Lemon, when did you last eat a Greggs sausage roll?
Now, confession time!
I last ate a Greggs sausage roll in about 1986.
DH used to buy bread from Greggs every week, but unfortunately, Greggs The Bakers no longer sell bread
What exactly are Greggs about these days?
They are supposed to have gone down the 'healthy food' route but are still selling cholesterol-laden sausage rolls.

But we keep going off thread in a massive way.Religion and the ‘evils thereof’ are not what is under scrutiny.
Breitbart was very offensive. They said Greggs was based in Yorkshire.
Will anyone else confess to ever having eaten a Greggs sausage roll (apart from Mini-Baggs
)?
And which politician was it?
Greggs are just massive purveyors of greasy stuff reheated for builders lunches aren’t they?
They said Greggs was based in Yorkshire. 
That is truly shocking!!
It's like saying the Cornish invented the pasty when we know it was invented in Devon.
I have a friend who loves Greggs sausage rolls but he has to sneak down there and eat them surreptitiously in the street in case his wife finds out.
Wow! Heated discussion, often going off track. Were Greggs insensitive to Christians....Yes I believe they were. I am not sure they would have been brave enough to make fun of other religions tbh. Contrary to beliefs, other religions might be affronted also. Muslims and Christians share a common theological heritage where both faiths revere Jesus and his mother.
These similarities have sadly become sullied throughout history because Islam and Christianity are often portrayed as implacable enemies embroiled in conflict. (Sadja Kahn in the Times)
Poor taste in Greggs - like their sausage rolls themselves I would guess.
Not true, Jalima. They sell bread where there is enough demand for it.
"The company says it's now focusing on "food-on-the-go products, including sandwiches", which are "freshly prepared in store every day and made using our own bread". "While loaves of bread can still be purchased in a number of our shops where we see high levels of customer demand," a spokeswoman adds, "we also understand that customer shopping habits and needs are changing and have adapted accordingly." "
The reason I ask you, lemon, is because you said that Paul Hollywood must have lost his taste buds if he eats Greggs sausage rolls.
If you've never eaten one, how would you know how tasty or otherwise they are - unless you are just prejudiced against a snack that lots of northerners eat?
I used to eat them, Jalima, but having been vegetarian for over forty years, it's not a shop I frequent these days, let alone eat sausage rolls.
If I ate sausages, 1 from Greggs would be just as likely to get eaten as one from anywhere else.
I believe George "six jobs" Osborne was photographed eating one once maybe he's a regular scoffer of Gregg's offerings, hence the deathly white pallor.
It was stupid, crass and ill-advised. Perhaps someone thought they were clever and "on message" and instead were deeply offensive. I hope they've been read the riot act but I doubt it, any publicity is good publicity and Greggs have had plenty! Then again, I suppose Christ has had to put up with far worse. The year before I retired an e-mail was sent to the entire organisation where I worked asking us not to send each other Christmas cards as we would offend staff of other faiths. I was offended. VERY offended so I immediately went out to find cards depicting the Nativity. The only place I could find such cards in the City was in Southwark Cathedral and I bought several boxes which I sent to ALL my workmates regardless of their religions. After all, the non-Christians weren't so offended by Christmas that they felt obliged to work over the holiday, were they? And nobody complained! Not one! I think I was a bit disappointed.
What shocks me, and I find despicable, is to mock another's beliefs. Whether these beliefs are true is not the issue it is the mockery of what someone else' believes in.
I have no knowledge of Christ having been born on 25 December as no page in the bible no matter how many times you read it confirms that particular day as his birth.
There is a winter solstice, and a roman midwinter festival which was, hundreds of years ago celebrated around 25th and if folk wanted to make that a time to celebrate then that's their choice. To each his own.
These celebrations were seen as heathen.
Hollycat your post illustrates just one version of the absolute nonsense of decisions made on behalf of non Christians regarding "perceived" offences that exist only in the minds of those who dream up these idiotic directives.
It doesn't matter what day he was born, all that matters is he was born and the 25th December means to me a day when all Christians are rejoicing this together .
I am deeply offend that the Christ Child was replaced with a sausage roll and just for publicity which will bring in more money , shame on them, and shame on those who defend them.
Hollycat - I know....
Maybe same year? We were asked not to send Christmas cards too!!! My experience was that NOBODY was offended regardless of religion!
My best work mate was Jehovah's Witness and although she didn't participate in Christmas, she was happy to get a card. She didn't feel 'offended' in any way.
I went into my local (muslim run) shop and they were playing Christmas Carols, I commented on it and they said "We LOVE them"....
I was picked up by a Muslim taxi driver on Christmas Eve (I was so incensed with this 'offending' nonsense) I asked him if he was Muslim and he said he was I said so I better not wish you a 'happy Christmas' then? His response was "Its Christmas, why wouldn't you?"
Says it all...... stuff and nonsense...........
Oops I am going off topic too! (apologies OP)
My experience is that people of faith respect the faith of other groups. The similarities between the faiths far outweigh their differences. The basic tenants of kindness, forgiveness, not taking life, not committing adultery or harming children etc run through the major faiths. The notion than somehow religion is responsible for all the ills in the world doesn't sit with me. Each to their own. What I do find offensive is deliberate attacks on others because of their beliefs whether its religion, politics or other belief systems that help us get through the challenges life throws at us.
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