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8% increase in Queen's allownace

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Newquay Tue 27-Jun-17 09:04:08

Just heard the above on the news. And still the nurses get 1%-have we no sense of proportion?

Ana Fri 30-Jun-17 21:14:01

Can't see it being exciting enough - two old codgers pottering around and having snoozes when they haven't got any public engagements.

The private lives of the corgis would probably be more interesing! grin

Jalima1108 Fri 30-Jun-17 21:19:50

They keep their breakfast cereals in Tupperware - that could be a good advert!!
grin

MissAdventure Fri 30-Jun-17 22:04:18

"The only way is Windsor"

vampirequeen Sat 01-Jul-17 08:44:30

They wouldn't like that because we'd suddenly see how they really live and not how we think they live. Some people think the queen is frugal because she turns lights off, "just like us" but then how would they feel when they see best quality meat being fed to the dogs off silver plates, or the footmen having to accept that the dogs will nip their ankles (I bet a bit of secret kicking goes on when no one is looking lol).

We would see how little they actually do for the money they receive and perhaps people would stop worshipping them.

vampirequeen Sat 01-Jul-17 08:52:59

Remember the Royal Family is a construct. The Hanoverians were not the most popular royals. When the middle classes became more powerful Victoria, led by Albert, set out to seduce them by creating an image that would appeal to that section of society. This continued into the 20th Century when they realised that they now had to appeal to the working classes so the Prince of Wales (later Edward VIII) was sent out to seduce them. Suddenly royals were seen meeting miners, dockers, mill workers (especially selected of course) and people lined the streets to see them. This was when the walk about started. The people could stand behind barriers and see the royal who passed by waving and smiling. Today we have a royal family that is adept at using the media to maintain it's popularity. The younger royals have grown up in the media age and know how to smile and give sound bites. They have media and PR advisors who tell them when to release pictures of the children, when to release pictures of the 'happy couples' and feed stories into the media.

Jalima1108 Sat 01-Jul-17 09:34:23

I am not sure why anyone who thinks the monarchy is a better option than a president should be thought of as 'worshipping' them.

I certainly don't but, financially, politically and pragmatically, I prefer them to the alternative.

Anniebach Sat 01-Jul-17 09:49:31

I can assure you, when Edward 8th visited Merthyr and caused a storm when he said 'something must be done' the people he met were not especially selected,

Alima Sat 01-Jul-17 09:54:33

Would much rather have what we have got as opposed to a presidential head of state. Could end up with someone like Mr Trump or the odious Blair. Luckily I will be long gone by the time any radical changes are made.

Anniebach Sat 01-Jul-17 10:01:05

Or Corbyn , at least we know what his Christmas message would be - I feel your pain

Lazigirl Sat 01-Jul-17 10:14:24

It doesn't have to be a politician as head of state, but importantly they would be elected, not inherit the job. I think it's an anachronism to have a hereditary head of state in a modern democracy. Ireland seems to manage it pretty well.

Jalima1108 Sat 01-Jul-17 10:32:31

The Crown Estates generate income, a small portion of which is paid (15%?) to run the monarchial system ie the Sovereign Grant. The rest goes into the Treasury.

Were we to abolish the Monarchy the Crown Estates would still have to be run (it is a large business), any profits paid to the Treasury and a Presidential Grant (possibly more than the Sovereign Grant) would have to be paid.
Buckingham Palace or its equivalent would still have to be repaired and maintained and used as Presidential offices for entertaining other Heads of State and probably the shabby, neglected private rooms would not meet the approval of a new First Lady or First Gentleman anyway - it seems to be de rigueur for Presidents' families to need a complete, very expensive refurbishment every time one is elected in other countries.

I prefer the status quo.

henetha Sat 01-Jul-17 11:36:21

I hope the Queen doesn't read this. I think she has done the best she can with this difficult role in life.
Personally I favour the Monarchy over a president, but I do feel that only the monarch and immediate heirs should be supported by public money. The other relatives should earn their own living, surely.
Regarding the upkeep of Buckingham Palace, yes it should be maintained as it is a great asset to the nation.

trisher Sat 01-Jul-17 13:24:56

If the queen is on GN what do you suppose she calls herself? grin

Jalima1108 Sat 01-Jul-17 13:33:43

well, we have a lizziepopbottle I think - you don't think shock