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Feeling cynical about the election?

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gillybob Thu 08-Jun-17 10:16:40

Is it just me, or does anyone else feel very cynical about this election?

I can't help but think that we are caught between the devil and the deep blue sea and no matter who enters number 10 on Friday there's one thing for certain and that is that nothing much will change for the better for me and mine.

I don't want to get into a they will do this, they will do that argument but I really feel quite miserable about it all.

gillybob Fri 09-Jun-17 09:01:27

I tried to tell her that in our town it matters not a jot whether she personally voted or not. The Labour majority is and has always been massive.

Nelliemoser Fri 09-Jun-17 09:08:53

Apathy is a huge danger to all political systems.

There is no question but that we should vote. Sometimes tactically. I have never been a truely floating voter who decides on the day.

Perhaps people should take some time to really read what different parties are planning for our and country and decide if what they read, suits the ideas they have for the society they want.

gillybob Fri 09-Jun-17 09:15:14

But if you live in a town like mine Nelliemoser there really is no point. It is and has always been labour. Massive majority. All stems from ex mining, ship building and heavy industry. Now it is pretty much all public sector as very few private enterprises.

The problem with no opposition is that the complacent labour council need do nothing and still get voted in.

Apathy alive and well here.

silverlining48 Fri 09-Jun-17 09:18:33

As i said on another post earlier, today is the 104 th anniversRy since emily davidson jumped in front of the kings horse in order that women get the right to vote. whether the result is as we would wish is another thing but it is democracy as we know it.

silverlining48 Fri 09-Jun-17 09:27:08

There is always a point in voting gb. despite living in a very poor outer london aRea it consistently votes conservative, so i too always vote for the party which comes second. But i vote anyway, given the efforts and pain which went into getting womens votes. I understand unless i am corrected that in the 1960's women in switzerland still couldnt vote,

gillybob Fri 09-Jun-17 09:31:52

I do always vote silverlining48 and tend to just pick anyone else other than the labour candidate. Unless we have an effective opposition our town will never move into the 21st century.

I fully appreciate that there will be areas in the country who have the exact opposite and have a permanent Tory council with a huge majority.

yggdrasil Fri 09-Jun-17 11:17:25

Here we are the day after, and the media just can't cope. Teresa May has lost her majority and the question is, wil she resign or not.
The latest I have heard she is going to rely on the DUP to support her. After all that screaming from the Mail & Sun about Labour and terrorists, will they cover the DUP's actions in the troubles. No I thought not.
I am so pleased with the result, lots of the PLP are now saying sorry to Jeremy for underestimating him.

whitewave Fri 09-Jun-17 11:21:42

Oh yes DUP and their support of the killers. How are the media going to explain that away!

aggie Fri 09-Jun-17 11:33:15

could be worse ,, the other lot , who don't take their seats , could be right in the fray too

stillaliveandkicking Fri 09-Jun-17 16:46:53

Remoaners have now had their "tactical" chance and lost.
Jeremy Corbyn didn't get in.
Nicola Sturgen hasn't got her way.

Bit of reshuffling but business as usual.

Phew.

Onwards and upwards.

Ana Fri 09-Jun-17 16:50:35

grin

merlotgran Fri 09-Jun-17 17:09:45

grin

travelsafar Fri 09-Jun-17 17:13:47

I wonder what the rest of the world think of our country now. Not so great me thinks, with Brexit and now a hung parliment, we must appear very unsettled, confused and in complete disarray!!!!

WilmaKnickersfit Fri 09-Jun-17 17:14:18

... business as usual ... hmm

stillaliveandkicking Fri 09-Jun-17 17:55:11

The blame lies with the people that could not accept a democratic vote to leave the EU. Yes, if you think about it rationally, you have nearly brought our country to it's knees but yet again you have not won.

And let's face it you were also willing to vote for someone whom his own party couldn't stand a few months ago and now he's being seen as some sort of messiah.

So it's all a bit hypocritical to think that May cannot do the same isn't it. The difference is I believe in May and am not a flip-flopper.

mcem Fri 09-Jun-17 17:56:23

Hung parliament- TM on the skids - discontented Tories. Depending on DUP to prop them up until they topple.
SNP still major party in Scotland.
Vote of confidence encouraging Labour.
Don't be so smug SAAK!
It ain't over 'til the skinny lady sings!!
And goodbye Paul Nuttall.
A bind perhaps but the present situation won't last long.

Jalima1108 Fri 09-Jun-17 17:57:51

And goodbye Paul Nuttall.
Every cloud etc mcem

stillaliveandkicking Fri 09-Jun-17 18:09:11

No it won't last long mcem. We will soon be in Brexit talks as planned. Hopefully Nigel Ferrage will come out of retirement.

Did you really believe that Labour would put all they stated in their manifesto in place and not back-track? If labour got in and did this we would definitely have imploded. We would also have looked like complete tossers in EU negotiations.

Nope not over but an end in sight.

yggdrasil Fri 09-Jun-17 18:18:11

"Did you really believe that Labour would put all they stated in their manifesto in place and not back-track?"

Yes I did. It was all costed. And why wouldn't I believe someone who has stuck by his principles before?
I regret they won't have the chance and we will be depending on the Conservative AND UNIONIST party to produce even more austerity.
It won't last long though, there will be yet another election come the autumn.

mcem Fri 09-Jun-17 18:18:51

So you're crowing over pleased with the outcome SAAK.
Thought you might be unhappy to lose Paul N.
Hardly a resounding vote of confidence in the status quo.
But there's a long way to go before your crowing can be justified.
Wish we could lay bets on how long she'll last!
Really good that so many young people have seen through her.

stillaliveandkicking Fri 09-Jun-17 18:19:04

I also can't get the vision of Corbyn riding around with Abbot on the back of his motorbike :/

mcem Fri 09-Jun-17 18:24:37

And that idiotic remark is significant because????????

Riverwalk Fri 09-Jun-17 18:25:34

What a strange chap you are SAAK!

stillaliveandkicking Fri 09-Jun-17 18:26:22

Don't you think that her position could have been due to who you know mcem?

Nandalot Fri 09-Jun-17 18:26:48

Back track? You must be talking about May, SAAK.