Cyber Attack on NHS

I only connect my external hard drive to back up, MargaretX. Doesn't leaving it attached leave it open to attack?

NHS is the fifth biggest employer in the world.
They were probably targeting big employers.

Unfortunately, the coal mines are shut.

This is as bad as it gets, but I suspect that big companies have almost certainly been targeted, we wouldn't know because of commercial confidentiality.

One hopes the intelligence and military services are not vulnerable.

I suppose the energy suppliers are also vulnerable as perhaps anything really!!! The mind boggles!!

Back to coal fires and candles

There were a couple of doctors on Breakfast TV who said everything is backed up in the NHS once a day and they seemed optimistic that all emergencies will be dealt with.

What about you all on GN. Do you do a daiy Back up?
I have an external drive- a small rectangular silver thing which is attached to my computer and backs up twice a day and holds the files for 2 years. Cost 75 Euros.
One assumes the NHs must have somethng similar but it costs money.

International companies such as Nissan who I'm sure have the most up to date systems available have been hit so the alleged underfunding of the NHS cannot be to blame here.

Its in over 99 countries now. Russia been the hardest hit they say. Oh I reckon they club together. No way one person can do this. The news is recommending today everyone do there updates and scan.

It wont stop until there is no more places for it to infiltrate. The amount of people who don't do the updates and have even a free internet security is frightening.

I have text a couple of my friends this morning to tell them to do it as I know what they are like.

Replies were: its only the NHS- bang my head against a brick wall, ring them to explain. Tell them if they dont do it what they are risking etc etc and to read the articles properly.

Quite a few bring there laptops to me to service, fix etc. Told them you get this its fcuked. No repair.

Fortunately I was bought up with the virtual world kicking and screaming. My 4 are all internet savvy and 2 work in the industry as a software developer and the other as a software engineer

Wh or what is 'Maybot'?

One hospital, apparently, is still using windows 95!

Hope this attack wasn't just a softening up, to find out where the vulnerabilities are.

Harrigran, I think it's illegal.

If they can hack into the NHS this easily, and companies like Nissan, I am rather worried about Trident.
When Maybot persuaded parliament to back a Trident replacement last year, she forgot to tell them that a test had just gone wrong.

Well said, harrigan, even some of the hackers consider this behaviour to be bad form. I hope whoever has done this needs an ambulance quickly some time and it doesn't arrive.

My son has his op next sat
After a five month wait for this 'urgent' treatment. I only hope it goes ahead.

Just seen Corbyn outside the hospital where my granddaughter was born. Is it an omen?

twitter.com/LabourEoin/status/863332562621673472/photo/1

Tory letter to NHS organisations.

Its frightening, because what will be next?

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/13/nhs-computer-systems-insufficient-funding

Why does the NHS still have windows XP?
That was two laptops ago.

www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/13/jeremy-hunt-ignored-warning-signs-before-cyber-attack-hit-nhs

It was Hunt's fault that the systems did not have the programmes to stop the attack.
So yes, he should be blamed.

Windows huh!!

Everyone is quick to blame the NHS s system but some big (dare I say rich) companies have been affected Russia has been affected the most and the actual hacking programme came from the US, that doesn't necessarily mean the hackers were from US but the programme used
This is according to WorldRadio just now

durhamjen A group called LulzSec hacked the CIA in 2012/3 and were caught. Microsoft introduced software to prevent future attacks using the system the hackers had set up but not all organisation did or could update.
I think it is still speculation as to whether this was the source this time but there are a lot of people who seem to know what they are talking about making the link. If it is, then it is unlikely to be anything to do with Trump (personally I think that there is a lot of McCarthyism in the way that any connections with Russia are being talked about but they don't seem to be being blamed this time).

How vulnerable are we? The short answer is that all of us are possibly vulnerable depending upon what we do and what protections we have in place, then that we ensure everything is kept bang up to date.

The NHS is only one of many organisations with legacy equipment, lots of different systems and a host of incompatability. The one serious attempt to overcome this was abandoned because the contractors could not continue.

The bad guys, whether foreign governments, hackers or cyber criminals are always exploring and exploiting the weaknesses they find. They are always ahead because the security guys get to act when an attack surfaces and they can then work to cancel it. As there are always going to be weaknesses there will always be problems. In the cyber world nothing stops still.

I don't think that blaming the NHS management ( or government) is fair or realistic.
These kind of hackers will always be able to get into any systems.New protective firewalls/spyware etc will keep them at bay for a short while, but then they will crack it.....and so it goes on.
Yes, a lot to be said for paper records!

Nissan Sunderland affected, too.