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Cyber Attack on NHS

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mollie Fri 12-May-17 17:49:07

Just read with growing anger about this ransomware attack. It's international, not just here in the UK. Can I use the word 'bastards'! angry

Izabella Sat 13-May-17 13:23:19

Windows huh!!

durhamjen Sat 13-May-17 13:30:37

www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/13/jeremy-hunt-ignored-warning-signs-before-cyber-attack-hit-nhs

It was Hunt's fault that the systems did not have the programmes to stop the attack.
So yes, he should be blamed.

durhamjen Sat 13-May-17 13:31:42

Why does the NHS still have windows XP?
That was two laptops ago.

durhamjen Sat 13-May-17 13:36:56

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/13/nhs-computer-systems-insufficient-funding

LesleyAnne54 Sat 13-May-17 13:54:38

Its frightening, because what will be next?

durhamjen Sat 13-May-17 13:59:22

twitter.com/LabourEoin/status/863332562621673472/photo/1

Tory letter to NHS organisations.

durhamjen Sat 13-May-17 14:15:42

Just seen Corbyn outside the hospital where my granddaughter was born. Is it an omen?

Morgana Sat 13-May-17 14:17:05

My son has his op next sat
After a five month wait for this 'urgent' treatment. I only hope it goes ahead.

lovebeigecardigans1955 Sat 13-May-17 14:45:03

Well said, harrigan, even some of the hackers consider this behaviour to be bad form. I hope whoever has done this needs an ambulance quickly some time and it doesn't arrive.

durhamjen Sat 13-May-17 14:52:47

Harrigran, I think it's illegal.

If they can hack into the NHS this easily, and companies like Nissan, I am rather worried about Trident.
When Maybot persuaded parliament to back a Trident replacement last year, she forgot to tell them that a test had just gone wrong.

durhamjen Sat 13-May-17 15:20:39

Hope this attack wasn't just a softening up, to find out where the vulnerabilities are.

durhamjen Sat 13-May-17 15:22:37

One hospital, apparently, is still using windows 95!

Ana Sat 13-May-17 15:24:08

Wh or what is 'Maybot'?

keffie Sat 13-May-17 15:43:21

Its in over 99 countries now. Russia been the hardest hit they say. Oh I reckon they club together. No way one person can do this. The news is recommending today everyone do there updates and scan.

It wont stop until there is no more places for it to infiltrate. The amount of people who don't do the updates and have even a free internet security is frightening.

I have text a couple of my friends this morning to tell them to do it as I know what they are like.

Replies were: its only the NHS- bang my head against a brick wall, ring them to explain. Tell them if they dont do it what they are risking etc etc and to read the articles properly.

Quite a few bring there laptops to me to service, fix etc. Told them you get this its fcuked. No repair.

Fortunately I was bought up with the virtual world kicking and screaming. My 4 are all internet savvy and 2 work in the industry as a software developer and the other as a software engineer

CyBele Sat 13-May-17 15:47:46

International companies such as Nissan who I'm sure have the most up to date systems available have been hit so the alleged underfunding of the NHS cannot be to blame here.

MargaretX Sat 13-May-17 15:50:08

There were a couple of doctors on Breakfast TV who said everything is backed up in the NHS once a day and they seemed optimistic that all emergencies will be dealt with.

What about you all on GN. Do you do a daiy Back up?
I have an external drive- a small rectangular silver thing which is attached to my computer and backs up twice a day and holds the files for 2 years. Cost 75 Euros.
One assumes the NHs must have somethng similar but it costs money.

whitewave Sat 13-May-17 16:17:29

This is as bad as it gets, but I suspect that big companies have almost certainly been targeted, we wouldn't know because of commercial confidentiality.

One hopes the intelligence and military services are not vulnerable.

I suppose the energy suppliers are also vulnerable as perhaps anything really!!! The mind boggles!!

Back to coal fires and candles

Mapleleaf Sat 13-May-17 16:39:26

Unfortunately, the coal mines are shut.

durhamjen Sat 13-May-17 16:49:40

NHS is the fifth biggest employer in the world.
They were probably targeting big employers.

Maggiemaybe Sat 13-May-17 17:09:30

I only connect my external hard drive to back up, MargaretX. Doesn't leaving it attached leave it open to attack?

whitewave Sat 13-May-17 17:13:42

Oh dear Tories cut the renewal of the protection system in 2014.

durhamjen Sat 13-May-17 17:21:41

Energy suppliers. Nuclear energy.
Military. Nuclear weapons.
I hope they are more up to date than the NHS.

RAF Sat 13-May-17 17:27:12

As others have noted, Micro$oft stopped supporting Windows XP three years ago, and gave the NHS plenty of warning. The NHS bought one year's further support of patches to update and protect from hacking, then left it up to NHS local organisations to upgrade, without giving them the funding to do this. If you have to meet A and E targets or get fined, you are not going to spend the money on IT.

The NHS has not bought sufficient bandwidth to run all systems at speed, so updates are switched off from automatically working so that an overload does not occur.

This attack has revealed how vulnerable every business is unless it keeps its servers up to date and patched. The fact that this particular bit of ransomware was built by the CIA to hack into computers and leave them open to further hacking, and then leaked and sold, show the sort of world we now have to cope with.

RAF Sat 13-May-17 17:33:24

BTW Micro$oft has just released a patch for XP, they must have some sort of conscience after all! grin

durhamjen Sat 13-May-17 17:37:11

More likely just business sense. The fifth biggest employer in the world changing OS?