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St George's Day

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grannypiper Sun 23-Apr-17 07:36:53

I hope all of our English Grans have the bunting up and the flag of St George flying high. Have wonderful day celebrating your patron saint. Do any of you have a celebration planned ?

Penstemmon Sun 23-Apr-17 13:04:05

I think St Gearge is a good symbol for England. As person of middle eastern extraction the stories say he always fought to defend the weak and help those in need , regardless of who they were or where they were from. As England is an invaded country, with its ancient heritage & culture gleaned from different places it is good St George is a foreigner. He represents our diversity. grin

BlueBelle Sun 23-Apr-17 13:10:10

really .....in the this day and age of refusing refugees sanctuary, trying to kill people on the streets if they speak English with an accent and trying to rid the country of Eu citizens I m not sure we have much to be proud of in our representation of diversity

Penstemmon Sun 23-Apr-17 13:20:22

Sorry bluebelle the grin was my attempt to indicate irony. But I do like St G. The first school I worked in, in Battrsea, was St George's. I taught a lad who is known as St George in the boxing world and my dad attended St. George's School in Jerusalem! One of my Palestinian gt. Uncles was called George. So many links.

Ilovecheese Sun 23-Apr-17 13:43:35

Thank you Pollyperkins and paddyann for articulating what I was thinking.
I love my country too.

Penstemmon Sun 23-Apr-17 13:53:12

It is sad that we, generally, associate both the Union Flag and the England flag with the worst type of nationalist behaviour. Do you think it is possible to 'reclaim' the flags to represent the best things about England/UK?

grannypiper Sun 23-Apr-17 14:19:18

Sue01 think i may just invite myself to your house.grin

Sheilasue Sun 23-Apr-17 14:19:32

I remember celebrating it at school as a child, along with empire day, May Day round the flag pole etc. Just not PC anymore is it.

NanaandGrampy Sun 23-Apr-17 14:50:09

We're going to a renew of cub and scout vows in honour of St George.

DanniRae Sun 23-Apr-17 15:21:21

We are celebrating St George's Day with a flags in our living room window and the kitchen window - we do this every year!

Happy St George's Day to one and all!!

Penstemmon Sun 23-Apr-17 15:30:47

sheilasue why is it PC not to celebrate May Day?

As we don't have an empire and we did rather strip assets from countries that were colonised and leave complications, with some awful consequences behind, I can see why empire day is swept under the carpet. Not politically correct more strategically political.
But cannot see a problem with May Day. Kids at school where I am a governor do Maypole dancing!

durhamjen Sun 23-Apr-17 15:43:17

They do that in my village, too, Penstemmon.
Never thought of it being PC or not.

Penstemmon Sun 23-Apr-17 15:45:32

Might be sexualisation of children though! Fertility dancing at Primary School!

Conni7 Sun 23-Apr-17 15:46:47

We have the flags out too, for the Queen's birthday and St. George. But could Labour please give us back our Lancashire red rose, which they highjacked.

Penstemmon Sun 23-Apr-17 15:58:54

I think it is just the English rose Conni7
On some literature it is red, on others white.
Also Lancashire red's rose is a flatter Tudor rose rather than the fuller English rose.

Marieeliz Sun 23-Apr-17 16:47:44

We went to Lytham yesterday all the shops where dressed up with the flags. There was also a St. George's day concert in the evening. We need to shout about it more every other country in the UK does. Happy St. George's day everyone.

Lisalou Sun 23-Apr-17 17:22:19

I live in Spain, in Catalonia (North East) and it is the patron Saint here too. In fact St George boasts quite a few countries and regions. Here it is much celebrated, but not a holiday (It is this year, due to falling on Sunday) It is a very sweet festivity, as it is also Cervantes day (It would appear that Cervantes and Shakespeare both died on April 23rd 1616)
As a result, they have little stalls selling red roses, for St George and book stalls too, with reduced prices. It is traditional for couples to give each other books and roses on this day.

For Catalonia, it is more representative than Valentine's day is for Britain.

Swanny Sun 23-Apr-17 17:41:50

Just composed an erudite essay (!) only to have my computer drop the wi-fi connection and my efforts were in vain. I'll try to remember that wot I rote grin

When I started school in the early fifties we had all sorts of holidays, religious and secular, as it was a village CofE school. On Holy days such as Ascension Day, All Saints Day etc we would join an early service in the church next door, or the vicar would conduct prayers in the classroom, then we'd have the rest of the day off. On Empire Day, May Day or on ancient notable dates such as Quarter Days (it was a farming community) we'd have a half-day holiday, and on battle anniversaries such as Trafalgar Day, Relief of Mafeking or Ladysmith, VE day etc and patron saints days we would have special lessons about the event. I'm afraid I've forgotten most of them but we seemed to have a lot! Childcare was never a problem with these odd holidays as very few mums worked and children of those who did were looked after by other mums.

I think it was the Conservative government in the early seventies who did away with the variable date of Whitsun and gave us the Late May Bank Holiday instead, closely followed by the Labour Government who gave us the fixed May Day, also known as Labour Day on 1st May in communist countries.

HurdyGurdy Sun 23-Apr-17 17:57:18

So if Mr Corbyn does become Prime Minister, and awards us four extra bank holidays for the saints' days (and I can imagine businesses will LOVE that idea!), what happens if Scotland gains independence? Do we continue celebrating their saints day with them, or will we have to give it back, cos they're not "one of us" any more?

sue1169 Sun 23-Apr-17 18:15:16

Well its my late dads birthday too(would be 90 today?). So St Georges day is special in two ways to me.....

rosesarered Sun 23-Apr-17 18:26:03

Well, I am all for more red rosesgrin
No, we don't need more Bank Holidays though.

Penstemmon Sun 23-Apr-17 18:45:24

We do need more bank holiday.

Penstemmon Sun 23-Apr-17 18:46:46

Meant to add that the well known communist country,good old USofA also has Labor Day wink

whitewave Sun 23-Apr-17 18:51:12

Yes there are numerous reports to show that if people work less hours and have time off it boosts productivity. It is recognised by more and more forward looking businesses - particularly young businesses. They aren't stuck in the past.

rozina Sun 23-Apr-17 19:01:13

I celebrated St. George's Day yesterday at Whitton in Middlesex, where they really go to town with a Parade, complete with Dragon, St. George and damsel etc. etc.

My friends took me in their car as I was on crutches after a knee operation. The sun came out there was music live, stalls, they do this every year and I wouldn't miss it for the world. Also the Royal Albert Hall in London have the most patriotic St. George's Day Concert ever, complete with Jerusalem, Land of Hope and Glory etc. and red, blue and white balloons.

TerriBull Sun 23-Apr-17 19:28:16

The two red roses are beautiful and so is George the dog {smile]